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ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo
I wanted to try Echo but didnt want to spend all my spending money. so i went to DC, caught my fish for free.
Yes I am complaining.
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Re: [joevanoni] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
with a boat? or shore fishing?
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Re: [joevanoni] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
I just don't get it. Let's think for a minute, if I'm running Echo Reservoir and I want people to come to my lake, why in the hell would I charge a $20.00 for an entrance fee. That so assinine, they need to take a class in economics and realize that if you charge less more people will come.
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Re: [fishkiller21] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
have you ever went around the lake there's areas you can find easy shore fishing by the cliffs, rocky area, or around the rope swings are if u can find them.


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Re: [fishkiller21] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
It cost 20 to get into echo wow guess I wont be going their!
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Re: [STEVEF39] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
WOW 20 is ridiculous!
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Re: [fishkiller21] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
they arent charging for the boat launch...its for a parking pass....and they really dont have much parking room. And its the only ramp. They might be able to launch down at the camping area on the upstream end of the lake.....but the same people own that.
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Re: [Trackerg] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
I don't think the state should plant fish there anymore.
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Re: [joevanoni] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
Well, if I owned some " beach front" property I would be a little hessitate to let everyone and their dog on it. Maybe the 20$ keeps a few people away..... Just the way I look at it. If you wanna pay to play there than do it, if not, don't. Whats another 20$ on top of fuel charges anyways............Wink
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Re: [lovetofish] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
im not sure if the state does stock it or not.....the reservoir was built and is owned by the Weber Water District I believe. Thats partly why there isnt a state park there. I guess inflation made it to echo cuz last year it was 15 dollar fee.
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Re: [Trackerg] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
Trackerg wrote:
im not sure if the state does stock it or not.....the reservoir was built and is owned by the Weber Water District I believe. Thats partly why there isnt a state park there. I guess inflation made it to echo cuz last year it was 15 dollar fee.
Over 20,000 'bows stocked last fall by the UDWR. So money wise, who pays for the fish? I'm going out on a limb here and say it's not the owners of Echo Reservoir.
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Re: [fishkiller21] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
It's only $15 to ramp....trust me....
$20 to camp/ramp maybe....

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Re: [mojorizing] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
And then the ramp isn't even open in late fall when the fishing really gets good! I guess if they can't launch 100+ boats they don't bother opening the gates.
Just one more brookie........
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Re: [brookieguy1] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
 I caught the bows from shore casting Black with white spots, lures, I call them Merna Minows. (Homemade stuff) 4 fish 14 to 16 inches,
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Re: [joevanoni] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
$20 to be able to enjoy a day on the water without so many other boats is worth it, IMHO.

Crowds at PV, Rockport, DC and Jordanelle can get out of hand.
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Re: [Troll] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
So raise the fees and make access to public resources only available to the more wealthy??????

I can see fees for maintaining and improving facilities. Maybe someone needs to ask what the fee increases fund.
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Re: [cpierce] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
They are only available to the more wealthy as it is, so your point is mute.

You think those people lining the shore are there by choice? What's the first thing a fisher does when they can "afford it"? They buy a way to get out off the shore. Many start with a $100 blow up raft, then a $300 canoe, then a 12' aluminum with an electric, soon upgrade to a 6hp, then a 14'. next thing you know they have a 18' Lund with a 150hp and a 10hp kicker and a $1000 GPS fishfinder being pulled by a 3/4 pick-up truck.

The rig I described last can easily go $60,000.

So, if you want to play with the big boys, yes you have to pay, if not you can sit on shore and probably catch more fish per dollar spent.
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Re: [Troll] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
Troll wrote:
They are only available to the more wealthy as it is, so your point is mute.

You think those people lining the shore are there by choice? What's the first thing a fisher does when they can "afford it"? They buy a way to get out off the shore. Many start with a $100 blow up raft, then a $300 canoe, then a 12' aluminum with an electric, soon upgrade to a 6hp, then a 14'. next thing you know they have a 18' Lund with a 150hp and a 10hp kicker and a $1000 GPS fishfinder being pulled by a 3/4 pick-up truck.

The rig I described last can easily go $60,000.

So, if you want to play with the big boys, yes you have to pay, if not you can sit on shore and probably catch more fish per dollar spent.
Why you snobby SOB! Just kidding. You're pretty much spot on when it comes to bigger waters. I myself prefer a 'toon or tube and an alpine lake where I can catch great eating trout and lots of solitude. Gas prices still affect us all though.
Just one more brookie........
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Re: [brookieguy1] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
Just calling it like I see it.

I didn't think Echo was public. I was under the impression that it is owned by a water company and most of the shore line is private. Surely no one has a problem with private property owners using their land as they see fit or using it to make a living?
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Re: [Troll] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
I have no problem with private lakes, clubs, or even private access points. If you have the funds, then go for it, but they should pay to stock their own fish.

I was thinking that it is kind of hard to see the young guy with a family of kids being priced out from fishing for fish that were stocked with public funds.

My other point is that, I think it is appropriate to ask what the price increases will fund. It may just be higher operating costs, or it might be for improvements. A little "PR" on the part of the access managers could stave off a bunch of complaints.
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Re: [cpierce] ECHO ECHo ECho Echo echo In reply to
They stock the Weber above Rockport and much of it is private and posted. They stock above Echo and much of it is private and some of it is posted. They stock below Echo and much of it is private and posted.

I'm seeing a pattern.

Maybe it's time for sportsman to get together again like during the stream access fight and get the stocking of these private areas stopped.

That young family now has community ponds for their enjoyment without the travel expense and I think it's only $3 to use the West side of Rockport, which has some nice beaches and plenty of nice fish. They have also recently installed porta potties, which is an improvement although I don't know if the extra money from that side was used to do that.
There are still plenty of free access points on many of Utah's lakes and streams, you may have to ask around to learn them, but that's the way it's always been.
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A little history and current fees In reply to
Echo Dam was complete in 1931 by the Bureau of Reclamation. Echo Dam and Reservoir are operated and maintained by the Weber River Water Users Association (WRWUA) under contract with the Bureau of Reclamation. The only boat launch is at Echo Resort & Restaurant which is a private facility. Their current fees are $4 for walk-ins, $10 to park (annual park pass for $100), $15 to boat launch (annual boat pass for $150), and $25 to camp (annual camping pass for $250).


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Re: [dubob] A little history and current fees In reply to
Once again Bob, you step up with the history, the facts, and just good clear information. Appreciated. I liked your other post on access fees. Sadly in this "economy" - it is what it is. And as said - "gotta pay to play".
I agree with some of the comments that there are plenty of options, places you can get to and fish. BUT I do see how our general access is becoming more and more limited, or costly. What's another $20bux on top of gas? Another $20 on top of gas that is double the cost it was a number of years back. Is that just inflation? Uh, no.
I see Cpierce's point about stocking. Who's footing that bill, and what to they get in return?

But there is NO question the DNR services stock the places where the money is. Was up in Sun Valley area, and a camp host shared that they stocked those rivers real good, more than other areas - because of all the big money in that area. You've got movies stars and such that staff a ranch that they might visit a few days a year.

As for the notes that you start simple and build up - totally get THAT, and it's the "American Dream" in action, no? The real problem comes from the jump to "want it now, get it, pay later" but buying beyond our means is what got the whole housing market into the mess that lead us to where we are - sadly.

Bottom line is - what can we do about it? Typically not much beyond "nut up and shut up". But that's not human nature. My Mrs and friends used to have a "Stitch and Bitch" gathering. Trust me - there wasn't much stitching going on. That turned over into the "Whiners Club" where school teachers could get together and bemoan the education system they were tethered to (it was more about the Wine with cheese and crackers, watching the sunset from the deck). So yeah - sometimes folks just like to vent. I've never been one to don the Rose-Tint glasses myself. Sadly my glass is never half full.... would it help my blood pressure and overal demeanor to change that? Yeah. But the world-direction in the good ol US of A - just doesn't support that these days for us lowly "cogsley cogs, and spacely sprockets". Just gotta keep the gears greased somehow I guess!


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Re: [dubob] A little history and current fees In reply to
Bob's right on. I contacted the BLM about five years ago because there was so much underage drinking, drugs, and everything else going on every weekend up there at the South Beach. They said the family had gotten a 50 year lease on the property some 35 or so years previous (I'm sure it was dirt cheap back then). So, by my reckoning, they only have less than 10 years before the lease expires. I would like nothing more than to have the BLM take it back and either develop it themselves or turn it over to the State to create more developed camp areas (Main Launch & South Beach) and boot the squatters off the prime access and camp areas. Could be worth starting a petition if that's possible, or create a group of investors to bid against them when it comes due. Bottom line is, as long as they are there, you have to pay the fees. However, beacuse it's public land all around their resorts, you can access any of it at no charge. It's great fishing, but currently comes at a price...

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