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Just saw a report that not only did our current Commander in Chief not visit Arlington National Cemetery on Veterans Day but he has yet to visit American Troops in a War Zone. They showed his previous response why he has yet to visit the troops- I’m “very busy “. Which makes me recall his comments on our previous Commander in Chief playing golf too much. He touted “I won’t have time to play golf”. Currently Trump has had time to golf about 150 times about 2-3 times the rate that Obama did. I’m not against any President playing golf or clearing brush on the ranch if they’re doing there job. But playing golf 150 times at $80 million of taxpayers expense is quite extreme while not finding time for a single visit to troops you command in a war zone in almost 2 years.
I don’t know maybe he’ll get a doctor’s note excusing him from visits because of bone spurs like he did during the draft.
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Re: [riverdog] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Sounds like these numbers come from extremely biased sources.

https://www.google.com/...0HFDm2axqG6X5YUxUX6T
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Just saw a report that not only did our current Commander in Chief not visit Arlington National Cemetery on Veterans Day but he has yet to visit American Troops in a War Zone. They showed his previous response why he has yet to visit the troops- I’m “very busy “. Which makes me recall his comments on our previous Commander in Chief playing golf too much. He touted “I won’t have time to play golf”. Currently Trump has had time to golf about 150 times about 2-3 times the rate that Obama did. I’m not against any President playing golf or clearing brush on the ranch if they’re doing there job. But playing golf 150 times at $80 million of taxpayers expense is quite extreme while not finding time for a single visit to troops you command in a war zone in almost 2 years.
I don’t know maybe he’ll get a doctor’s note excusing him from visits because of bone spurs like he did during the draft.

I'd like to see the exact system used for estimating obamas "price tag"(including irans big scam)
If you look at something on the internet you always get what you want to see but without bias I feel sure, even if true, still obama's golf cost us more in terms of money and lost leadership combined.
I found it a little odd a Christian president would go golfing and belittle his God on Christmas too.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/...ns-cost-taxpayers-3/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...6.html?noredirect=on
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President Obama is skipping the traditional Memorial Day visit to Arlington National Cemetery, a move that has dismayed some veterans -- and comes at a sensitive moment in the administration's relationship with the military.

Instead of speaking at Arlington, as he did last year and as most presidents have done, Obama will appear at the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery outside Chicago.....


Veterans Day celebrates the service of all U.S. military veterans, while Memorial Day honors those who died while in military service.
-GOOGLE

Last -He hasn't visited troops in any active war zone yet, but that's better than visiting a war that you promised to end and never did, 1000 times. Sure he will get to everything he needs to, eventually, even if only symbolic and also expensive to the tax payer.

Additionally- A interesting site for anyone who wants to learn about presidents visiting war zones. I found it interesting that Wilson never visited any troops (he drafted) in WWI but like obama was also elected on a antiwar promise..Kennedy never visited Vietnam but his excuse was really good. *going to remove this joke soon*
https://www.wearethemighty.com/...visited-combat-zones
Spoilers: annoying pop-up ad.
out of 27 ever::
clinton=3
Bush Jr =8
obama=7
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(This post was edited by willami on Nov 17, 2018, 9:33 AM)
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Re: [willami] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Sir, I'm curious if the Washington Post it's extremely biased, what is your preferred news source?



Larry

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One flew over the cuckoo’s nest...
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Yeah, I think your right, everything is perfectly balanced, I checked, my source the devil and the your good guided me to that which was- that of lady Liberty Herself She came to me and said all was actually good, we don't have to worry, everything we hear is actually right, if its main stream and politically correct, we all will adorn our crows nets and and dance the village green. -Proving my lunacy
and creation of fantasy with no bearing on real events.

Perfect liberal logic came true, God is dead and criminally motivated rhetoric is actually what the universe is meaning by this life thing. I feel like Stalin was over rated, in my new eyes, he should of erased every non-being that didn't agree, instead of most.
His name is now god and socialism is right if it connects to this great time period.

Thank You.
-Perfect doth the crows net catch our souls, poverty will prevail lest our crows run rampant, to demolish our crops, suffer the crows or repair the nets.
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(This post was edited by willami on Nov 17, 2018, 7:24 PM)
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Re: [willami] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Wow, impressive. So I'm still curious. What is your preferred news source?



Larry

...one flew east, one flew west,
One flew over the cuckoo’s nest...
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Re: [FatBiker] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
My source was poorly chosen, every other source didn't exist, for what little mind power I struggle with.
I feel like what I'm told must be true from now on, no matter logical deduction and insight.
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Re: [willami] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Sir, thanks for the compliment. Actually at 64 I wear the same water size jeans (32) that I wrote in 1972 when I graduated from high school. At 195 pounds I am 5 lbs. heavier. Guess you can't judge a book by its cover.



Larry

...one flew east, one flew west,
One flew over the cuckoo’s nest...
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Re: [FatBiker] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Holy Sh^*, sorry, I didn't know. Please have consideration for the weak minded, Your Lord. I will add all sources, even if its not relevant to the topic, that ever influenced my stupid mind.
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Re: [FatBiker] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Hold up commodore;
Your the man. And Your not fat, its just a thing you aren't and that wonderful, I would like to admit that I, am fat in confidence, in words that seem true but are delivered by Satan, which exists whilst God doesn't.
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Re: [willami] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Got some sources! All from my memory, which can be wrong.
Source of calcium=cheese
Source of vitamin b-12 = liver
Source of pain = everything but my hair
Source of water = faucet
Source of my pity=me,
Source of my enlightenment=you
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To be truthful
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Re: [willami] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “
Wow, impressive. So I'm still curious. What is your preferred news source?

-I'm confused about where I am and whats happening-

Larry

...one flew east, one flew west,
One flew over the cuckoo’s nest...

I hate all news, because its always bad and smells like a liberal enjoying his own farts.
Any source? Or do you want to know the source of everything, ask God..

You want a real source? The source of acrimony is people that think they're debating but are actually drunk on their own carbon byproducts. Or possibly, trouble forming sentences in type, in this case.
Once more though, I had a little trouble fathoming your complex thoughts into coherent responses or questions. Once more I promise. It can get as real as you want. Just touch on every point of mine since I did yours.
Sorry, I didn't site my true source, the dictionary, its where you can look up words, put them into context and share a thought, adding imagery and rhetoric is the next step.
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Re: [willami] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
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Re: [FatBiker] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
I wish I could only bow down lower to ignorance, nothing would make me happier.
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Re: [willami] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Wow Willami, can't say I've ever seen someone end an argument so well by not getting into the normal dialog between liberals and conservatives. Well done.

To the OP of this thread, FYI and anyone else that makes a post like this, that is designed to start an argument, expect them to be moved to another board. If no one ends up replying and an argument or heated discussion does not ensue, then we will leave it here.


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Re: [wiperhunter2] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Clearly the post wasn't mine and the response to the response was over the top.
The topic of politics will never be touched, by me, here and I'm willing to censor any parts that could be viewed inappropriate, all though in such context every word with a vowel in it will be.
Just give me 12 hours, most of that was for me and know that the only way I ever respond to anything is by chance of what I read in the hot topics, if its in the Utah section especially.
Also- that I'm indifferent to all peoples origins and beliefs no matter where and of what they represent until they fail to represent the truth.
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(This post was edited by willami on Nov 17, 2018, 4:55 PM)
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Re: [wiperhunter2] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Curt, enough said. However, I only asked this gentleman his preferred news source since the Washington Post it's biased. This is the response I got for being respectable:


I hate all news, because its always bad and smells like a liberal enjoying his own farts.


Sounds to me like he was the one not being respectable. If I've violated your policy please remove my access from this board.

Williami, sir you're obviously crazy as a loon. My opinion



Larry

...one flew east, one flew west,
One flew over the cuckoo’s nest...
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Re: [FatBiker] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
You don't have to call me a gentleman, but talking to ME wouldn't hurt. I've calmed down profoundly and regret all the time that I spent not fishing, or thinking about how I'd rather be fishing. And-time is what we need, from ourselves, from pol-o-tics, from colors and sounds, even the smells and feeling that we get from anything that comes into our senses, all programed to serve self instead of others.
If I could sweep the bugs that lie in my path I would but the sweeping and the displacement would create a worse event that would cause more bugs underfoot. Stopping thought, in any direction that has no end, will stop some worry and prevent some needless traveling that gets us nowhere but creates marks on the road that only look like mistakes, weather accident or not.
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Re: [willami] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
The second part of my reply wasn't directed at you willami but to the OP=Original poster. He obviously made this post and two others, just to get a rise out of members. We have been down this road before, that is why I made the reply. These kinds of post do nothing but cause members to have dislike for others that do not have the same political leaning as they do, it causes hate and discontent and I believe we have enough of that in this world, as it is. We all have different views and making a post like this one and the others, that the OP made, will not change anyone's mind. After having discussions like this one with Larry before, I could see no good was coming from it, so I will not go down that path again. This after all is a fishing web site and getting this far off that path, even on the Off Topic board, is not the direction we need to be going.


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Re: [wiperhunter2] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
I didn't read anything, of which I am replying to but would like to know how I can serve your masterful presence.
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Re: [FatBiker] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Please read my reply to willami, my first reply was not directed at you but this thread has stepped out of bounds and will now be moved to the other board I mentioned. No reason to remove you from any board, you spoke your mind and so did he but that is going to be it on this board. You and willami can continue this conversation on that other board, if you like but both of you need to stop the name calling.


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willami wrote:
masterful presence.

LOL, that's funny.


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This is my last post to this site but I won't be completely away. If I make a good knot or cup of coffee its going right up. Unless I can figure out how to stop myself, and knots all failed and the coffee won't hold its grade.

Concluding: remember that no worries exist and without them no harm will come to you, also remember that some people know that and choose to worry, not for themselves but for everything but and a lot of those people wont be remembered, even the most famous war hero that ever lived, surely he has been forgotten if he ever had the chance to be remembered in the first place.

All enemies are the sum of we failed to calculate and all ends are cold and vast, unless you create something, almost anything other than nothing, to cling to and show others that the steam isn't everything, and you can crawl out of it and enter a new stream that might collect more water and carve canyons that gravitate towards the big end that even the heaviest body of fresh water must know-though even though eternity is defined its freshness and it cannot imagine the ocean for its molecules.
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(This post was edited by willami on Nov 17, 2018, 7:55 PM)
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Curt, just so I'm clear. Respectfully asking him his preferred news source was out of bounds?



Larry

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One flew over the cuckoo’s nest...
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No, that wasn't the problem, it was your last reply to me.


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First off all Presidents are hypocrites and almost all are narcissists. However I made the post to point out the current one is way beyond any other recent president. Look the only president I can recall in my lifetime that wasn’t clearly an extreme narcissist was Jimmy Carter. Obviously not a great president that history won’t change even if the current one goes down as even worse. I don’t even think Trump is the worst. I’d put him after George W Bush but before Carter.. I actually do think Trump is doing a few things right and I do hope he has success. If it’s liberal to criticize the assault on our Constitution or call out the extreme hypocrisy of a president please call me liberal. However I consider myself a moderate. In Utah that makes me liberal and in Massachusetts that makes me conservative from those that live in their isolated bubble. I’ve voted in every Presidential election and most in between since 1984. I’ve never voted straight party. I’ve voted for who I thought was the best candidate including Presidential candidates of both parties. Ive personally thought Trump is an unethical cheat since the 1980s. That was when he was still a Democrat. Nothing to do with his party but what to me appeared to be a pattern of swindling others including massive tax evasion. He clearly was a racist as well in my opinion. I can still remember his ads calling for reinstatement of the death penalty before the Central Park 5 were tried and convicted. Only problem they were latter cleared after serving time when there was strong evidence that the weren’t the culprits. If you think I would of voted for Trump if he ran as a Democrat you’re crazy. I also was saying before this election that whoever won was absolutely going to be a 1 term President. I hate to admit it but I voted for Hilary. However probable the only situation that would have got me to vote Trump was if he ran against Bernie. I’d also would hate to admit it because all 3 were extremely poor candidates. For what it’s worth I preferred Kasich over anyone else in either party that at all had a shot at it.
I don’t blindly support any politician or party. That is the extremist position worth labeling if one was inclined to reduce an argument to that level. I have no problem looking closely in the mirror before posting.
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Good to at least see the Generals Trump promoted don’t all have his bone spurs. https://mobile.twitter.com/...386585968640/photo/1
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Re: [riverdog] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
In case you missed this:
You obviously made this post and two others, just to get a rise out of members. We have been down this road before. These kinds of post do nothing but cause members to have dislike for others that do not have the same political leaning as they do, it causes hate and discontent and I believe we have enough of that in this world, as it is. We all have different views and making a post like this one will not change anyone's mind. After having discussions like this one with Larry before, I could see no good was coming from it, so I will not go down that path again. This after all is a fishing website and getting this far off that path, even on the Off Topic board, is not the direction we need to be going.


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Re: [wiperhunter2] I’m “very busy” - US Commander in Chief “ In reply to
Sounds like I hit a nerve with you personally. I apologize as that was not my intent. I don’t make or keep friends based on political party or who they voted for. I feel sorry for people that live in a small world like that. My best friend for over 30 years voted for Trump and is still a supporter overall. He’s never liked everything about Trump just as he’s never blindly supported any politician. We frequently discuss politics. Just yesterday we were discussing the idiotic House of Saud thinking no one would notice when an American resident of Turkish descent born in Saudi Arabia disappeared after entering the Saud Embassy in Turkey. And that neither the Turks or the Americans would care. We both agreed with Trump’s initial assessment that it was the “worst cover up” in history even if Trump has since waffled on the issue. We both have realized for decades that the House of Saud May be friends with the Bush Family and now the Trump Family but they aren’t what we consider friends of America. There are fair more negative comments on this site about Democrats than Republicans While it doesn’t bother me in the least, I do question your objectivity but I don’t somehow dislike you because of my opinion is different than yours on a single issue. Have a good day.
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No, not at all, this post was moved to this board because it is the proper board for political post. You can look at the rules on the Utah Off Topic board and see they are not allowed there. As far as my comments they were simply how I feel and why I do not want to comment about this or other political post. You can look at similar post on this board and see how out of hand they can get. There is no need for you to apologize either, you were just stating your feeling, as was I in my reply to you. If you will notice, I have not made any recent comments about about these issues because I have decided BFT is not the place for them, that was not the case in the past when I was commenting about them. It is not because my views have changed but simply because I do not think this is the proper place to post about them. I hope you can understand how what I said in my previous reply can happen, even if you don't feel that way.


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I’m on much more intermittently so I didn’t realize the change in policy. I’ll stick more to fishing and skip my occasional venting on what seems extreme even if almost all politicians seem nuts to me at least part of the time.