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Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing?
The older I get, the harder it is walking to my ice-fishing-honey holes. I am considering either a snowmobile or an ATV with tracks. I have had the misfortune of getting stuck twice, in the slush, on a snowmobile (considering I have only fished from a snowmobile maybe 1/2 dozen dozens, twice is a pretty high percentage) and I want to do everything reasonable to avoid that experience again. In your opinion, does an ATV, with tracks, or the right snowmobile handle slush better? If you prefer a snowmobile, please tell me what I should look for (an actual brand and model is even better) that will handle me and a passenger? I don't want to buy new, but I don't want to compromise my safety either.

Also, I own a trailer that is 5 X10' and I would prefer to not have to get a different trailer.


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(This post was edited by kentofnsl on Feb 12, 2019, 7:29 AM)
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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I've wondered the same. Next time I'm at Strawberry, I want to stop in the marina store and ask them about their rentals. I believe they have UTVs with tracks in their fleet. I would bet they have info about what machine handles the slush conditions the best. They don't want to rescue paying customers if they give them a machine that can't handle the slush or deep snow. I suspect that each will have their own set of advantages. I'll be following this thread as well
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Kent, you need to look at weight as well as ability to go... The wheelers with tracks are very heavy. Got a friend that has one and he needs 8" or more ice to dare go on with it. They will be similar in weight to a side by side... So I'd say snowmobile, but you have to know your limitations and stay off the slushy days or go around the slush areas.. I prefer not to fish in the wet of slush, it usually only lasts a day or two, so I avoid the bad days, they aren't fun to fish anyway... For snowmobiles, it's really hard to select one for someone else because each person has different abilities. For me I like a mountain type sled with big track and paddles so I can use the horse power to get out of bad situations, but if you haven't rode enough to be experienced, then you can get in trouble with that type sled and might be better off with the trail model... Also age can be a factor on what will work best too. As we get older, the electric start and wide tracks and skis are probably better options because they start better and have enough flotation to stay on top of the soup... Hopefully Packfan will pipe in and tell you about his sled, or perhaps Dubob will as well... For me I still like the Ski Doo Summit, but I've rode sleds forever and so I'm used to more difficult sleds to ride, but it can be a miserable sled to get going... Anyway if weight isn't a factor, those tracked wheelers are tanks and go pretty well... Later J
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Look at FatBikers recent post
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Kent,
Not sure if I am of any use - I know next to nothing about machines, but own two wheelers and one sled.
I bought my wheeler (no tracks) after a day of ice fishing at Strawberry and seeing others have far better range than me on foot. This was in 1995 and 4wd options were scarce.
My biggest thought was why buy a sled when I could only use it a few months out of the year. Wheeler I could use year round.
Took the wheeler out a few times...then never again. I spent more time getting it unstuck.

Several years later I bought a snowmobile (again, knowing nothing about them) that was a 2 person trail sled. To me, a sled was a sled. I had it for 2 years and then sold it because it was horrible for powder and slush. Weighed a ton and it was a a burden.
A few years after that I bought another sled. This time it was smaller, lighter. and easier to handle. The track on it though was smaller, likely made for trails, and again....I spent time digging it out of slush and deeper snow on the lake. Sold it and said I would not buy another.
The only reason I've ever had a sled was for ice fishing.....not really a recreational rider.

4 years ago I had a friend selling his sled. It was more for the recreational rider in deep powder, etc. The track was very aggressive (3+inch paddles....do you call them paddles?). And I thought - okay, that thing should be able to do what I want it to. So I bought it.
It is a 2003 Polaris RMK 800 Vertical Edge and it is awesome. Have taken it out many times and never once been stuck. Fast, light, and easy for one guy to load and handle (since I usually fish alone). Love it.

I also have a friend who has a side-by-side and a wheeler that he has put the tracks on. When we have fished together...me on my sled, him with his tracked vehicle....I have had to help him get un-stuck a few times.....not real bad.

For me - I'll keep my wheelers out of the powder and slush and stick with a sled. Its worth storing and maintaining for the summer to have the confidence of knowing that it will do what I want it to and the chances of me getting into trouble are less.
Oh - and I use the same trailer for all machines. Fits two wheelers or one sled and has a ramp.

Just my two cents
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One word... Snowdog. Love it!!
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I've been looking into those Snowdogs and they look pretty cool. They seem to be about the same length as a ATV but i think they weight less, would you say that is true? How are they when going across deep slush?


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Re: [wiperhunter2] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
My ATV (Honda Rancher) weighs about 500 lbs. Snowdog weighs 297 lbs. Just like any other ATV/snowmobile, deep slush is an issue. However, moving the Snowdog to reposition in that situation is much easier than a sled. Snowdog is about 1/3 the cost of a sled/ ATV, tansport is easier, no registration required (yet), all season use if you want.

Great machine.
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A Snowdog would be fine if I fished with guys who also owned one or similar. Not practical for getting two or three guys out on the ice if I'm the only one who owns one.


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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I was concerned about that too. However, the one I saw at the Gorge was hauling two guys with no issue at all.
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Love my 2016 Polaris 550 wide trak, Electric and pull start, has wide skis and a wide track and is a two up rider, it has reverse as well as a high and low range for towing loads or dragging an elk. These were built for trappers in the north country that run trap lines and haul heavy loads. I have went thru some pretty nasty slush in places on Cascade with two people towing two sleds and it seems to handle it great, people that have been riding off to the side of me said they liked the way it jumps on top with the wide skis and wide track when I open it up. It is heavy so I would imagine it could be pretty nasty if I ever got it stuck.


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2008 or newer ski-DOO WILL do just fine 600 to 800 any size we hull ass acrost open water never had a problem with slush on a sled as long as you have enough power to get out . The slush will bog you down a bit but just honk on it don't slow down. Or you might get stuck 4 wheelers with tracks are a wast of time and money i think how much is a set of tracks 3 or 4 grand .. You can buy heck of a nice sled for 3k I would go snowmobile hands down .. it's kinda like trying to take your house cat hunting it's not a hunting dog and it's not going to work like one well that's my opinion not worth much
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A 550 wide track 154x20x1.5 is the best machine and heres my reasoning. Proven reliable engine and is fan air cooled. Anything over 550 is liquid cooled meaning it needs snow to pass through tunnel to cool engine. Many of times Ive see folks ice fishing no snow have machines overheat. Wide long track is a must in deep snow and slush. As mentioned wider track and wider skis and throttle is your friend in those situations. Another thing is having reverse as if you do get stuck using reverse can get you out. Ice scratchers for hyfax another must again no snow you can burn up the hyfax. So ice scratchers.

So if I were looking at a machine and I am its going to be a ski-doo Skandic 550F 154x20x1.5. With electric start along with pull start and reverse.

I dont need a machine for racing, climbing 90* inclines or climb a tree.

A 550 is the all around perfect snowmobile for ice fishing as I see it


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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
More sled info if you will potentially be taking others youll want a 2-up machine. Just so you know makes it easier plus gives you extra space to use if not taking a passenger.

Weve had our little Polaris Trail Tour 550 136x15x1 for 10 years in some of the worst snow/deep slush conditions and it has been an awesome little machine. We are going to be upgrading to another machine for next season from all weve learned about machines and conditions. Plus spending kids inheritance while we can both still go out and do what we love.Cool


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Thanks and I definitely want a sled that will handle a passenger. Will your sled fit on a 10' trailer?


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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Our sled is approximately 10. Ski stance is like 42-43. Our trailer bed in 12X5. We have a drop down ramp off the back hence reverse is very NICE. So depends on your trailer.

Something else to think about and we experienced is on trailer your sled track can get frozen to it if bare wood. I installed mats and ski guides on trailer.

Trust me Kent us 2 ole gals have been around when it comes to sleds and if it can possibly happen IT WILL reguarding conditions. Lake Cascade has given us et al very valuable big body of water/ice lessons 5-6 miles plus out from where you launched

Ill PM you some photos if you want on our sled and trailer. We are heading out tomorrow locally to ice fish.


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L-D-R wrote:

...4 wheelers with tracks are a wast of time and money i think how much is a set of tracks 3 or 4 grand .. You can buy heck of a nice sled for 3k I would go snowmobile hands down .. it's kinda like trying to take your house cat hunting it's not a hunting dog and it's not going to work like one well that's my opinion not worth much

I think you might be selling ATVs with tracks a little short, at least in certain conditions. Link


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Lighter than an ATV, that's good, it it about the same length as a Honda Rancher?


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Ill PM you some photos if you want on our sled and trailer.

Please do, thanks.


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Re: [wiperhunter2] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Much smaller. Two models (compact and standard)

Mine (compact) is 50L/24W/30H
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kentofnsl wrote:
L-D-R wrote:

...4 wheelers with tracks are a wast of time and money i think how much is a set of tracks 3 or 4 grand .. You can buy heck of a nice sled for 3k I would go snowmobile hands down .. it's kinda like trying to take your house cat hunting it's not a hunting dog and it's not going to work like one well that's my opinion not worth much

I think you might be selling ATVs with tracks a little short, at least in certain conditions. Link

Looks like the tracks would be a certain kind of fun, but that video was hardly a fair comparison. Any good sled rider would have killed it in that snow. Clearly they were promoting the ATV with tracks, but maybe that was the point. To ride a snowmobile off the beaten path, you have to be able to muscle it around i.e. shift your body weight to lean into turns. I am often off the seat standing straddling the seat or with both legs on either side to make a turn After a few hours of aggressive sled riding, you definitely get tired.

This is my first year ice fishing with a Snowmobile (1998 Polaris RMK 700) and truthfully it is a night and day difference. No hesitation on my part. Snowmobile all the way. My BIL has a quad and rarely feels like he can take it out on the ice.



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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Here is my waste of money, and I love it!
Crossing asphalt/mud/rocks/sand where a snowmobile cant go and then going in to deep snow/ice where an atv cant go=priceless.
Dont get stuck in places you shouldn't be in mixed conditions because neither a snowmobile or an atv can rescue you, only another tracked atv can.
Deadly on late season big game hunts.
If you want to come check it out give me a holler.
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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I enjoyed that video particularly since I grew up in the south and have zero experience with either type of snow capable machine.

I have a snow capable machine of a different sort, but it will need thicker ice in another state to be useful on a frozen lake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmD-Qp2WLP8

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Have you ran your snowdog on dry or muddy ground?
If you have how well do they climb? I have been looking at them and been wondering about using as game retrieval etc.
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Looks like the snow dog can haul three people:
https://snowdog.com/
See slide show


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Re: [SBennett] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Hey Shane,
Can I borrow your rig for this weekend at Cascade? The snow is getting scary deep. It might be quite a workout for my Skidoo Summit 800. I promise I'll wash and dry it when I get back.
If you're going to Cascade this weekend, never mind. Just give me a tow if I get stuck.

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I am almost 60 and i have always ice fished very light, only a 5 gallon bucket to carry my gear and to sit on,a 4 inch hand auger,2 rods.I bought a propane auger,panoptix finder,tent,hand pull sled this year and i thought about buying a ATV.I decided to sell all my new gear except the finder and go back to basics.I have never even put up the tent,i have fished pineview at night for well over 30 years without a tent,i used to catch trout and crappie at night and i was alone.I bought a milwaukee heated vest put skis on a very small sled to pull,am going to ditch the bucket and carry a fiolding chair..I never go to the gym or excersise and my resting heartbeat is mid 50s from packing my gear ice fishing.I google earth how far i am going to go and on most lakes its not that far maybe 1 mile one way.Ice fishing is my gym i ice fish 5 days a week mostly alone.
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I'm impressed.


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Re: [wiperhunter2] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
i have a 97 700 rmk with a 136x2x15 track and it may bog a little in the slush but with the 700 you have plenty of throttle even with 2 people on it its pretty hard to get stuck of ice . i 've have powder rolling over the top of the hood as long as you keep the throttle open your good . i really think a sled is your best bet all things considered.
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thanks, to each there own.I catch too many fish already and can fish anywhere i need in my boat.I fished echo about 30 days already including 3 straight days in the middle on 2 inches of ice,it was as good as any perch lake anywhere.I caught alot of crappies at pineview those guys in sleds have no advantage,a great thing i got was a drill adapter for my auger so i can run and gun,that propane auger weighed about 30 lbs.I fished with jey mouth at deer creek he has a nice setup like a 1 man clam he pulls and he is older than me and he catches plenty of fish.He is a stud.last week i pulled a sled from the boat docks all the way across to the track side then back to charlton side of the island.The guy i fish with for 30 years is 78 and catches plenty of fish and still hoofs it with no tent.I hope to get 6 more weeks of ice fishing this year.lol
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I get around just fine walking too. I don't enjoy hiking in lots of slush and deep snow is less than ideal. I also get away from the crowds and don't hesitate to hike a mile (one way) if the conditions are favorable.


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Re: [SBennett] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Well. I'm on search and rescue and we have both tracked side by side one guy has a 4 wheeler with tracks and we ask him to leave it home. The tracked wheelers and side by sides are great for parking lot stuff like getting sandwiches or running water around but they only go about 10 % of the places we take our sleds to they are heavy and can't manuevar them very well up hill or side hill or down hill or in slush or snow over 2 feet deep. They are slow heavy cost to much and some one has to pit the track kits on every year they do work great for pulling out hot sled on a packed down trail spent to many hours digging out tracked units
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Can you recommend any sleds that will haul a passenger and handle the slush?


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Re: [wiperhunter2] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
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Looks like the snow dog can haul three people:
https://snowdog.com/
See slide show

Yes, if one just wants to transport three passengers, without all of their gear, and in ideal conditions. That said, one would still be nice to own.


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Re: [L-D-R] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Maybe I did not explain my position as well as I should have,sorry.
I know a snowmobile will not do what a tracked machine can do, just the same as a tracked machine is incapable of doing what a snowmobile can do. They both fill a very defined niche.
I own both, but my smile and giggle factor is much higher on my tracked machine is all.
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Re: [TopH2O] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Hi Mike,
I'm jealous of your Cascade trip.
I would have also been there but need 1 more week of healing from my surgery before I start ice fishing again.
My machine is currently loaded and ready for my first trip of the year to Fishlake for the tourney next week,IF there are not big winds forecast.
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Shane,
You know I was just kidding (half way anyway) about using your tracked rig. I was contacted yesterday by a mutual friend and he told me they have postponed their Cascade trip for a few weeks due to the deep snow and iffy weather.
I am committed to this weekend because of other things going on now. I'm just hoping we will be able to get around on the lake with my Skidoo. I'm planning to haul at least one guy out to where we will be fishing. My brother had planned to use his ATV but that now seems impossible due to the snow depth.

Good luck at Fish Lake and say Hi to my friends and former co-workers down there.

Mike


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Re: [TopH2O] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I knew you were kidding.
Growing up my Dad taught me "never borrow anything with a motor" and I knew you subscribed to the same theory.
I cant wait to hear your report.
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I'll be going with the tracked quad setup like SBennett's once I can pull the trigger. I'd love a snowmobile but I want the ability to use it year round so even a slight sacrifice in some winter conditions would be worth it to me.
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Both K2 and myself did earlier, Crazy


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Looks like we made the right decision when I cancelled my reservation a week ago. I'm going to back off for a few weeks and see what March has to offer, if that doesn't work I will wait until the ice disappears and take the boat up, kinda need to do that anyway.Cool


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Both K2 and myself did earlier, Crazy

I know you did, and I appreciate it from both of you. I just want to know of any other options, if there are any, so that I consider all reasonable opportunities (also, considering what is currently available on KSL for sale).


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I sell the snow dog machines and we are the local dealer in Utah. Feel free to post questions and I will be happy to answer them. Also, feel free to shoot me an email travis@backwaterperformance.com or give me a call at the shop 385-695-3811
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Re: [Dunn13] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Try to buy a machine that has power steering and a true front locking differential, it will be money well spent.
I went with a Grizzly 700 with power steering that is fuel injected.
I understand a Suzuki King Quad is also an excellent choice.
Not sure about Hondas.
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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Snowmobiles are going to be one of the best options. I have an 07 skidoo summit 800 with 2.5" lugs. bought used for $2500...reliable and more capable than most drivers. couple weeks ago 4 of us used it...me plus 1 rider pulling 3 sleds...100mph round trips can shuffle friends pretty fast....lol..jk...but they can certainly do it.



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I also run a Suzuki king quad and Kawasaki Terra X4, all have their pros and cons.


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In the for what it's worth department...I am not a snowmobiler but I bought one for ice fishing. I have ATV's and considered putting tracks on one. The draw backs were low top speed (runs back and forth to the car and the marina are best done quickly to save fishing time) and the wear and tear on my machine. Tracks do put more stress on the transmission and engine. I bought a 2007 SkiDoo Summit 800 with 2.5 inch paddles and a 159 inch track for $2,500. The big paddles and the long track make all the difference in the slush and deep snow. Three weeks ago at Strawberry there was 6 inches of slush under 18 inches of snow. I took two people and a full pull sled 2.5 miles from the marina and never got close to being stuck. It would bog down in the really deep stuff but kept going. I think the longer track is a must as is reverse unless you have a RORO trailer. The one thing I would like would be electric start but so far that hasn't been a problem and I'm 61. So my recommendation would be a higher power sled 600 plus, reverse, 155 inch track minimum, 2 inch paddles minimum, and electric start if you can find it. It has worked well for me and have never been stuck.
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For anyone thinking about it I installed my electric start. It's easy and doesnt cost much if a guy is willing to do it themselves. Most modern sleds are pre-wired already.



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Great, have you ever used one in deep slush, say 5" or more, if so how do they handle it?


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I guess it depends on how much gear you are going to take but in that one pic it looks like you could sit in the sled and carry all your gear in the same sled. I guess it all depends on how much gear you plan on taking. I will say I take more gear now days than I need but if I only took a couple of rods, a fish finder, tackle, an auger and a ice scoop, I'm pretty sure I could get it all in one of those sleds. Now whether the snowdog could pull me and two other guys that's another issue all together.Wink


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I did a show with KSL Outdoors end of March last year and there was 4-5 of slush on the ice and no snow as it had rained the night before. Didnt have any issues.
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Kim is correct about the need for scratchers on glare ice.
If you dont have scratchers dish soap works also.
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Kent,
Not sure if it is still on KSL still but last week there was a Yamaha Bravo Trapper Special in very good shape.
This machine was designed for trappers and people hauling materials in to extreme snow environments. Super long track, lightweight, not sure of reverse.
In Canada that machine would not last 10 minutes of being on sale after advertising.
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I have a Can Am 1000 cc with the Can Am Apache tracks. The Can Am's are built to run with tracks. I did have a bad day back in 2014. Here is the link to that thread - FYI:

http://www.bigfishtackle.com/...h_string=ATV;#865325

I love fishing with my tracked ATV. However, if you get them stuck in the slush, you are in a heap of big trouble. I wish I could find a photo, can't seem to find one at the moment.

When I started to look for a tracked ATV, I talked with a few folks that had them. Everyone said to get 800 cc as a minimum & I agree. I have a friend that owns a Honda with 700 cc's and he does seem to bog down more than I do. As I mentioned in the thread above, I can travel through 6-inches of slush with no problem. Any more than that, and I will turn around.

The Can Am's have adjustable power steering to use with the tracks and a chip that adjusts your speedometer & odometer accordingly. You won't travel as fast as a sled; however, I go as fast as I want. Any faster & it will be too cold for me. I highly recommend the Can Am.

In addition, I've towed a few sleds off the ice, never towed a tracked ATV.


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They are geared for low end torque and pulling. They are rated to pull 660+ pounds on dry ground. On the snow/ice I would say closer to 700-1000 pounds.
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I have a Can Am 1000 cc with the Can Am Apache tracks. The Can Am's are built to run with tracks. I did have a bad day back in 2014.
I called Camso Track Systems (after market tracks for ATVs) a few weeks back and the rep I talked to recommended the CanAm's as the top of the chain for track systems. His own machine was a CanAm. The companies second choice is the Grizzly.


If I decide for next year to go that route (tracked quad), it will be a CanAm 2-up quad. Not sure at this point. In the past 8 years, I've only been stuck in slush twice with my sled; once on Pineview and once on Cascade. Good thing I wasn't fishing alone either time. Cool


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I don't care what you are running always good to have a 2nd machine with you


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Thats exactly why when ice fishing you go with others. No matter with or without machines. Plus carrying basic tools along with tow straps. Including if towing a sled remove the belt


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I did a show with KSL Outdoors end of March last year and there was 4-5 of slush on the ice and no snow as it had rained the night before. Didnt have any issues.
So how would it handle the slush with 4-5" of snow on top of it? I'm just wondering at what point it is too much and there would be a likelihood of getting it stuck?


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Much smaller. Two models (compact and standard)

Mine (compact) is 50L/24W/30H

Wow, that is pretty small, sounds like you could get two of them in the back of a truck bed.
Have you been out enough with yours to get it stuck yet? Just wondering how hard they are to get them out.


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Havent had it in that situation personally so hard to say. Every situation is different depending on snow situation, how heavy of a load you are carrying, how many sleds you are towing, etc. lots of varying factors. The heaviest model weighs in at 340 pounds so pretty light when compared to a snowmobile.
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6x7 wrote:
Much smaller. Two models (compact and standard)

Mine (compact) is 50L/24W/30H

Wow, that is pretty small, sounds like you could get two of them in the back of a truck bed.
Have you been out enough with yours to get it stuck yet? Just wondering how hard they are to get them out.

You can get 2 of them side by side in the bed of a full size pickup or a machine and your sled and gear next to it. I have had mine stuck 2 times. Once in about a 3 foot snow drift on the lake and i just stepped out, moved the back end over gave it some gas and right back moving again. The second time i hit some powder with slush underneath. Again stepped out buddy pulled the front i gave it some gas and out it came. Wasnt stuck longer then about 3 minutes both times.
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Bob, did you get stuck on the move or when you stopped? Another lesson we learned be mindful of where you stop and if its a slush field dont stop. The 2 times for us we got stuck was because I stopped in the wrong area. 10 years and thankfully never stuck on the move only when I stopped.

Also if with others lift machine will be heavy and pull it to either side of where one got stuck. Dont get on machine but start and walk it out including unhook and tow behinds. More lessons learned enjoying ice fishing. Smile


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Bob, did you get stuck on the move or when you stopped?
Stopped both times. In both cases, didn't realize the slush under the snow was there because I hadn't broken through the snow while moving. After the stop, I gunned the throttle and because of the weight I was pulling, the track just dug straight down into the slush and I was dead in the water. Lucky I was with others and we got it going again in short order. I had to disconnect the pulled sled in both cases to get out and hand pull it to a slush free spot before reattaching. Sometimes you don't know the slush is there until its too late. Shocked

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Wherever I think I am going to stop for any reason I drive right over the spot,make a big circle, and then come back and park on my old track.
Never been stuck using this method.
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I have been trying to find an electric start for me Polaris 700 . It's a 2003 Vertical Edge . Do you know where I can get one . I have been looking with no luck .
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I made the plunge and purchased a snowmobile today:

2014 Ski-Doo Skandic WT550F

Electric and manual start
Reverse
Wide track (154"X20"X1.5")
4246 Miles on odometer


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Nice sled you will be happy with the sled . The reverse is great to have electric start is nice . aswell you get stuck on a sled it's your fault. So be wise and if it looks sketchy it probley is . Congratulations on your new sled
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Congrats Kent, that machine is a workhorse.
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Congrats and enjoy and have lots of adventures. Glad I along with others helped in your purchase great machine and call me jealous. Let us know how it all goes.


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Skunked, we never get skunked its the fish getting skunked as they just kept missing our lures.
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Ski-doo makes a good machine, My dad is 92 and has ridden nothing but Ski-doo for the past 50 some years. He doesn't get out as much as he use to but still rides out from his cabin in Northern Wis. to ice fish on occasion.


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Carry all that with me as well as a cell phone. Great storage space in my machine. Good luck to you guys at Cascade, be careful.


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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Congrats Kent hope you enjoy your new ride --

ONE thing I suggest is running the ethanol free gas that they sell at Maverick - you will not be sorry.

Also when you get ready to summarize your sled I can help you as I have learned a few things that will make your start-up next year go smooth.

Leave no man behind...

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Also when you get ready to summarize your sled I can help you as I have learned a few things that will make your start-up next year go smooth.

Thanks Craig, I appreciate that and will gladly take you up on your gracious offer.


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Re: [wiperhunter2] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Not good in slush.
Snowmobile will get you stuck, just further out from shore!
I have had mine since 2017.
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Re: [wiperhunter2] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I have had mine since 2017.
Standard model with reverse.
Hauling extra sleds and people depends on conditions.
I have hauled three sled tents plus snow dog sled, and three people across ice with little snow with no problems at all.
I did put studs in my track to grip better on ice.
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Kent,

This one will get good traction in the deepest of slush and snow:

https://newatlas.com/...1-sports-tank/52994/

Ronald :)



Let's go fishing! I prefer to fish with others. I'm well equipped with plenty to share and have a vehicle with amazing off road and winter driving capabilities to get us to even hard to reach fishing and ice fishing destinations. Let's team up! Private Message me to suggest I come to where you're fishing or plan a trip with me!

Who here is a surf fisherman? That's my next big vacation. I've already purchased top equipment for surf fishing. I'm looking to hire a guide or go with someone experienced.

Date proposal to single young BFT fisherladies with courage enough to put a worm on a hook: Tuesday, December 17 Movie: Jumanji Luxury seats and dinner at the IMAX at Jordan Commons. It's important to pay close attention to this movie because you never know when you will need to be prepared for similar scenarios. I can pick you up or meet you there.
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Thanks for the suggestion but because "...the Ripsaw might feature 16 inches of suspension travel to soak up some rough terrain, but this thing weighs 7,750 lb" I don't think I want to take it out on our local ice anytime soon. Sure would be fun in the snow though, but alas I needed a vehicle for ice fishing.


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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I also saw that it's too heavy, but posted it because it's a fun video to watch and you won't get stuck in anything EXCEPT for thin ice over deep reservoirs.

If we had the cold of some of the ice fishing states where people drive on the much thicker ice with their cars and trucks, an off road capable vehicle would be a good ice fishing vehicle.

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Let's go fishing! I prefer to fish with others. I'm well equipped with plenty to share and have a vehicle with amazing off road and winter driving capabilities to get us to even hard to reach fishing and ice fishing destinations. Let's team up! Private Message me to suggest I come to where you're fishing or plan a trip with me!

Who here is a surf fisherman? That's my next big vacation. I've already purchased top equipment for surf fishing. I'm looking to hire a guide or go with someone experienced.

Date proposal to single young BFT fisherladies with courage enough to put a worm on a hook: Tuesday, December 17 Movie: Jumanji Luxury seats and dinner at the IMAX at Jordan Commons. It's important to pay close attention to this movie because you never know when you will need to be prepared for similar scenarios. I can pick you up or meet you there.
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So if I were looking at a machine and I am its going to be a ski-doo Skandic 550F 154x20x1.5. With electric start along with pull start and reverse.


Thank you Kim for that advice. Today at Strawberry it was extremely difficult to walk because of the deep snow and the slush; however, my Ski-Doo Skandic handled it like I was driving on a groomed trail!Smile


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(This post was edited by kentofnsl on Mar 2, 2019, 8:29 PM)
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k2muskie wrote:



So if I were looking at a machine and I am its going to be a ski-doo Skandic 550F 154x20x1.5. With electric start along with pull start and reverse.


Thank you Kim for that advice. Today at Strawberry it was extremely difficult to walk because of the deep snow and the slush; however, my Ski-Doo Skandic handled it like I was driving on a groomed trail!Smile

Thats great to hear. Glad your sled is working for ya in iffy conditions.


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Skunked, we never get skunked its the fish getting skunked as they just kept missing our lures.