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My garden pics: Summer of 2019
It is sad to post these pics after what I had last year but such is life. This year all I have is two grow boxes, in the second pic you can see what happened to my garden from last year, it was lost to a development project, it's that big pile of dirt behind the grow boxFrown. I do have a back up plan, I'm building a big green house up in Idaho, on my son's property. I'll get some pics of that, the next time I go up. What you see in these pics are what came up the first time i planted, last month. I just replanted again in the spots where it is bare, hopefully the rows will fill in better, when it starts coming up.


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...in the second pic you can see what happened to my garden from last year, it was lost to a development project, it's that big pile of dirt behind the grow boxFrown. I do have a back up plan, I'm building a big green house up in Idaho, on my son's property.

Have you been planting your garden on your neighbor's property and now they decided to build on it? I trust your son will be doing most of the watering and care of your green house.


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Yes, about 7 years ago my neighbor that owned the 2 acre lot behind my house, let a guy rent the property to grow monster pumpkins. Turned out the guy broke the state record for pumpkins 5 or those 7 years and the two years that he did not break the record he took the year off and did not grow anyCrazy. Anyway, I took the fact that my neighbor was renting the property as a sign that maybe he would let me grow a garden there, so I ask him and he said sure, as long as the pumpkin growers were ok with it. I put the garden up against my property, so I could use my secondary water to water it. You can see from my previous years post that my garden was a success, so it was quite a let down, when I found out last Fall that that would be the last year I could use the land. The good thing was that the guy growing the pumpkins, had to move too, so he sold me one of those big green houses. My son won't need to water the garden up there because I took most of my drip irrigation system up there and installed it last month. Hopefully they will at least weed it but we will see.


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Here are some new pics of my garden boxes and the Greenhouse up in Idaho.


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Took these pics yesterday. With the sun staying out more comes growth, so I'm finally going to start getting some zucchini later this week. Butternut starting to vine out and produce some too. Snow peas have been blossoming in the last week but no pods yet.


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Sure looks like it! We got down to 48.7* last night, much cooler than the forecasted 55* so that was surprising. It cools house to 61 before we shut the house back up this morning.
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We've collected 2 large batches of pea pods so far, divided it into 4ths- vacuum packed 2 bags for the freezer, ate one raw, and used one in a yummy stir fry.
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Amazing your garden is producing so well, guess I got a late start and having to plant twice did not help. I think next year I'll be making some small greenhouse covers like yours, they really seem to help.


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Since we bought our first greenhouse/cold frame we plan to use it as a pattern for making some more of them. We can't really easily duplicate the two areas tht allow you to open them, but we rarely opened it and with the two of us we figure we can lift it off if we needed to get under it for any reason. Making them will give us something to do this winter.
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I might need to drop by your place later this year and take a look at them, maybe I can make a few the Winter too.


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sure, I'll let you know when we've built one - Laugh
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We finally got some snow pea pods out of the garden today and it looks like there are several zucchini, that will be ready to pick in a couple of days.


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Really nice, its funny when you finally see one all of sudden you see there are lot more of them than you thought.

Our squash isn't very close to being picked yet. Hopefully in couple weeks though.
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Wow, I would have thought that yellow squash you posted a pic of would be full sized by now. You are so right, when see one all of sudden you see there are lot more of them.


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New pics from my garden, taken today. Buttercup squash plant vines are going nuts, you can hardly see the zucchini plants and snow peas from all the BC vines. Also my watermelon plants and crenshaw plants are finally taken off. Finally getting yellow squash and kale and cucumber plants are finally starting to growCrazy.


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That BC is going nuts for sure, soon you won't be able to mow Wink

Your watermelon look about like ours, and hasn't even bloomed yet, but the cantaloupe has really taken off and has tons of blooms.


Cabbages are so happy healthy this year, and maybe they are beginning to form heads. So much so that my row shelters to keep the cabbage moths off are getting harder and harder to open to check on the plants then to put back on for their protection.

I'm about to make the rounds around garden. My squash seems really happy and it is funny one day it'll have all male flowers the next day only female flowers so I think I may have problems pollinating them myself. I did get one pollinated for sure and it is growing nicely. Perhaps next year if I plant two of the plants I could have higher probability of getting male and female flowers at the same time. Then again, being the only one who will be eating them I'd hate to have too many of them. Crazy

Update - Pics added , also had deer get spooked as I made way around the house to take the pics, scared both of us a bit - me mainly because the sweet potatoes box hasn't been deer proofed yet, and it got too out of sight into the trees to see if a buck or doe. No damage to SPs but one of the SPs that had some signs of some damage to the main stem a couple weeks ago is starting to wilt badly, so I'm going to check if any more of own slips can be placed out there if it has enough roots.

The cabbages are so healthy and strong, almost 24 inches wide, with a head just beginning in the middle. I do need to harvest some broccoli though its growing so much better than ever under those shelters its even poking up into the tops of the covers! But no cabbage moths. Oh and one of the SPs in my bales that is located under the shelters just because of spacing has vined nicely compared to all the others, its vines are 2-3 ft long under the shelter, so it is happy. My fingers are crossed that we get some harvest from all my SP experiments this year. But I'll be more ready for growing them next year depending on what turns out to best way to get them to grow here. It's been enjoyable to track them throughout this year.
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When I mowed last week I had to lift the vines up to mow, going to be harder this time for sure. It's even growing up the fence that is suppose to be for my green beans and snow peas.
Male and female flowers on your squash? I've never heard of that. I've got several yellow squash plants but only one has started to bloom and I've got two squash from it so far. When we start getting too much squash, we just give it to our neighbors, there is always one that will take some, I'm sure yours will take some too and it's a good way to get to know them, if you don't already.Wink
Great pics, amazing how good your garden is doing, wish my pole beans were doing as good as yours. I like your idea of growing the cukes up the fence, bet they are much easier to pick that way. Cabbages look good too, how many do you get a year?


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squash flowers - you can see the female ones, they have fruit forming the males won't have a fruit behind them, so you pick the male flower remove the flower's outer leaves leaving the center, then that center is touched indie the female flower - and wahllah 'magic' happens.... Wink


Think I can pick my first squash any day now.


Of course we know all our neighbors, some better than others and most of them won't even attempt growing a garden here, they all love getting garden produce (as well as fish Wink)

Yes harvesting from raised bed and trellis is sure better than kneeling on the ground or bending toward the ground. Plus when you don't have a lot of space to garden in anything that can trellis keeps space and trellis can also make for some shade for cooler plants like lettuce or peas. Our trellis is on the bales and it is one of those cattle panels you get at farm stores. Since we have T posts already we just tie them to the posts using last year's baling twine (although our huge spool of twine is enough for our lifetime why not reuse some for other purposes) Sure makes for some colorful gardening Laugh

Cabbages - I've only planted one 6 pack of them - we love it fried .

We picked our first 2 cherry tomatoes - that is the best thing that so much better than a store bought one for flavor!
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I had seen that before but never knew there were male or female flowers, thanks for enlightening meSmile.
I think my snow peas are about done, I was picking 10 to 14 pods every couple of days earlier in the week but today, I only got 4Frown.Usually when that happening it isn't long before the plants start to die. The good thing is my green beans are starting to blossom, so it won't be long before I'm getting some of those. Also started to see some blossoms on my watermelon plants today, with any luck I'll get a few before the season is over. I have some fence from an old dog run I use to have, so maybe that will work in place of cattle panels for growing cucumbers, at this point I'll feel lucky to get any this year, Frown but we will see.


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Yeah haven't seen any beans on our vines as of yet Crazy even though they've been flowering for couple weeks now Frown Yes once the peas stop flowering you know it won't be long till they are over.

Picked and cooked up my first squash. I sautéed it in little butter with sprinkling of nutmeg keeping it more crisp so it didn't get too mushy and of all things even Jeff said it was the best he'd ever eaten (shh don't tellWink). Of course that's not saying too much but still he also thought having two plants would increase our pollination opportunities. I ended up needed to open flowers that had barely closed up - in fact one flower I opened actually had 2 honey bees inside of it - that was shocking when I first started seeing their legs till I saw what they were Laugh.

That section of fence you have should work just fine.

Its just been an odd summer this year, seems every year has some oddness to it. Kind of like farmers when they either get too much rain then too little of rain, they still keep planting every year.
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It's hard to pollinate those small blooms on those bean plants, but it sounds like some bees are making it into you garden area. Maybe the bees are not getting to the beans yet because they just haven't found the plants yet, because they are so smallWink. Did you know we have a second variety of bees around here, they are about half the size of a honey bee, I'm not sure but I think they are a wild bees.
Nice going on getting the squash cooked up so even Jeff likes themWink.


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Yes it would be difficult, but its not too hard to do it with those large squash flowers!

I too was happy to know the bees are finally here. I've also seen those other 'wild' bees you mentioned, not sure they are even bees or just made to look like them.

Yesterday, our walk through checking on plants, we finally found a eally small cantaloupe and we also may get watermelon flowers really soon. Just seems this is later then we got them last year, but I'll need to check my gardening records to see if I recorded anything about all this to be sure.

I would say he liked the squash, just that it was that it wasn't awful - LOL.

Oh and the local deer we flushed up a few days ago, is still around. It is a smaller 4 point buck. it seems to have found a place it likes here, with the taller field grasses, trees and water. So happy we have all the deer fencing already in place. But the new SP box doesn't have fencing but thankfully, so far that doesn't appear to be of interest to hiim.
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LOL, yea those big blossoms are no problem but I was referring to the blooms on your pole beans, they might be a little tougherWink.
Wow, a cantaloupe already, that is good news.
Hopefully the deer will stay away from your SP box.


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yes the pole beans would be difficult, no sign of any beans forming just yet.

We planted a piece of the grape root you gave us just to see if it would grow anything as it looked to be pretty dead. I can now say it is growing, about 2 18" long branches up from that root. The ones at our son's house are growing even better of course.


Deer hasn't yet bothered the SPs but looks like they are getting nibbled on by some leaf cutting wasp/bees or maybe something else. But I'll put some baits out around the base of the plants to see if I can stop whatever might be feasting on them.

Nothing on watermelons yet but the cantaloupes do seem to setting more and more fruits. So we'll see.

I did start a poppies bed from some Jeff's sister sent me - red and orange ones. I wasn't expecting to get any blooms this first year but the other day I noticed a flower bud rising up from the shorter sprouted greenery. So it'll be fun to see it its red or orange.

I like the cooler temps we are getting today and tomorrow but you have to work in a little sprinkling shower that keeps falling - nothing major as of yet, just enough though to dampen your top half - but not enough to really fill the rain storage containers very well. Crazy
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All the blossoms I have on my green beans are at the bottom, so maybe the bees are not getting to them because of all the overgrown buttercup and zucchini leaves but yesterday I decided to pull up all my snow pea plants to make room for the beans, maybe that will help.
So how long did you have that grape vine in the ground before you noticed it was starting to grow? Good to hear the one at your son's house is growing good too.
We have that problem too with something eating some of our young plants, I've always believed it was grasshoppers that did that but it's usually not a problem when the plants get bigger.
Saw our first bloom on our cantaloupe plants today, sure hope they can produce something before it's too late.
We got the rain this morning, that they were predicting overnight, it came down pretty good for an hour or so but stopped right as we started out daily walk, it sure made for pleasant walking conditions.


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Our pole bean blossoms run the lengths at variable spacing.

Our watermelons finally have some blooms on them that we spotted in our walk around the gardens this morning. YEAH!!! Not sure we'll get any melons this year, depends on how early it'll frost.

We only had a sprinkling of rain, less than tenth of an inch. It sure made for humidity once the sun started peeking through the clouds - it was like being in Mississippi, or even Illinois for that matter. But we are happy to get whatever of it we can.

We took all the grape vines to our son's house and put them where we thought he wanted them. There was a section of one that we left behind cause it showed no signs of life. So after we got back home, we decided on a place to put it where a drip line from our failed asparagus planting that didn't pan out was, but on the outside of the fenced off areas so the drip line was extended to reach it best just to see if anything happened. Now Jeff will use some scrap wood to make it a trellis to climb on. Make sense? I'll take a pic to better show you....

I did get to pollinate another squash since I had both kinds of flowers open. It does appear the bees have also taken care of polinating others as well.

So far the deer have not caused any damage to un-fenced items. But then the fruits are not large enough yet to entice them.

Well, time for lunch....
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I know what you mean about the humidity yesterday after the clouds started to disappear, it was bad but IMO nothing like it would be back East. I think we are spoiled here in the West with our low humidity, we think it's bad but even as bad as it was yesterday, it's nothing like the humidity in the East, especially the SE US.
Yes, I'd like to see the trellis Jeff built, I have an idea what it would look like but I'm curious if it is different than the one I built for my grape vine. I did not have to build one too big because my fence is all along where it is growing. I just hope the developers for that new subdivision don't have to cut it down, when they put up the fence between the property. It is so thick, it sure makes a great privacy fence.
When I put the boat back this week, after fishing Jordanelle, I had to move most of the vines for my buttercup plants, I was hoping I could get it back in my carport with no issues but that was not the case. Good thing the vines don't seem to be any worse for being moved but I can see it's going to be a problem the bigger they grow.
My cherry tree in my backyard is dying, guess I'll have to cut it down soon. I'm kind of sad to have to do it but it is likely 50 year old and on it's last leg. The good thing it it will give more sunlight to one of my grow boxes and a English walnut tree, that is near it's base.


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Not sure what kind of trellis he plans to build but I'll take picture of it once he does. I think he plans to attach it to the end of the raised beds to give it some more stability. Our sons whole back fence is covered in grape vines - inedible ones, with the only opening in the center which was where he put the ones from you, and they do make a great privacy fence. He also had them along his side yard but he and his neighbor agreed to remove them cause they are going to replace that fencing eventually.

Growing up in Illinois, August was always our humid month, but it just stayed so green spring through fall so it wasn't too terrible to deal with. But being in Mississippi for a while where it was so humid you had to drive with the wipers on even at 5AM in morning.

If you cut down the cherry tree, let me ask Jeff, but he may want some of the larger trunk pieces for using on his lathe if you're not going to want them. I'll be trimming some of hedge plants soon - burning bushes and rhamnus (?) bushes that grow so fast they block our satellite reception. they are really happy where they are growing - almost too happy Crazy they need to be trimmed every couple of years.

The word in our neighborhood is that they plan to re-black top our park walk pathway. The original one just broke down into small gravel after one year. That will be so nice. with no sidewalks out here, it gets a lot of use.
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Jeff said he still has some trunk pieces he got from another person so he won't be needing any more. Oh well.
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Not sure about the wood from the cherry tree, if I have someone cut it down, I think they want the wood but if I do it jeff would be more than welcome.


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Pretty crazy how warm it was overnight here, it never got below 77 degrees, most of the night it was 80. Garden sure grows good when overnight temp are that warm but inside temps aren't too pleasant, don't think it ever got below 79, guess I'll turn on the AC early todayCrazy.


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It's nice how just a little rain sprinkle at sunset can cool things off, well that and the fact it was cooler most of the day too.

Made plans for building a grape arbor - it'll go up and over the end of those beds back by the pine trees. So Friday (since we'll be out doing errands) we'll pick up some stronger/thicker wood to frame up the arbor, but the cross pieces Jeff said he should have enough scraps here (we got some from our son's last house as well as some we salvaged from another person's no-longer-needed wood) as well as some good rust proof wire for in between spaces - so hopefully this grape that is growing makes it through the winter pretty well.

Picked another successful squash. We aren't buried in squash, which is good when only one of us really eats it, so its been plenty for our needs.

Some of my bale cukes are finally up to gherkin size so soon (maybe 2 weeks) we will be able to start picking them.

I think a young bird must have landed inside the ground garden deer fencing cause it broke off one of bell peppers Frown . and it even had set peppers on it. No worries, but still sad.

My SPs really don't seem to be really taking off like I remember yours looking. So unsure we'll get any useable potatoes out of all my experiments. The best ones though are growing in the straw bales. But I guess we just have to see later this fall. Fingers are crossed.
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We never got any rain today but it was so much nicer temps today that we were able to turn the AC off by 7:30 pm, what a difference a day makes.
Sounds like you have a nice plan for the grape arbor. If you over the grape vine this Winter, after all the leaves have dropped I'm sure it will make it through the Winter.
Good to hear the squash are starting to produce.
Seems odd a small bird could break a bell pepper plant, do you think it's possible some other animal got in there?
Hopefully in the next month you will see your SP vines take off but with all the hot weather we have had recently, I'm kind of surprised you are not seeing them growing more. Do you think it is possible that they are not getting enough water. When it's hot like it has been, I usually had my water on twice a day for 20 to 25 minutes each time.


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I'm thinking maybe a dove or possibly a younger robin - neither flying very well right now - but perhaps it landed on top. it was only damaged one in the garden, no evidence of a cat (foot prints) or even a squirrel as we saw one run across the street so they are in the area. they can access that side of those beds via the black picket yard fencing. The deer never get in from that side as they don't like the look of where they'd be landing, but smaller animals can go through the pickets.

I've dug down in an empty area away from the drip lines and its is nice and moist, but not soggy. They do get watered twice a day for 20 or 25 min (can't remember which Jeff set the time for) these days. Guess we'll just have to wait and see? Did you ever see yours flower? None of ours have, but I read that they could.

It should be a pretty strong arbor(Jeff always believes in over engineering stuff - LOL). The bed it'll be over was the one we tried growing asparagus in - it still gets the most sun at that end of those beds, and it'll be high enough to walk under to harvest any grapes that hang down. Or at least that is the plan. What should I cover it with once the leaves fall off - will leaves or straw work, I usually have lots of both?
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I was thinking maybe a racoon got into the cage and accidently broke it, as it was poking around because they would not eat them but in all the years I've grow Bell Peppers, I've never seen a bird do damage like that, who knows, anything is possible.
Sounds like your SP are getting plenty of water. It gets a lot hotter down here, plus we have sandy soil, that is why I water so much. I don't remember ever seeing my SP's flower but I guess I could have missed it, depending on what color the flowers would be, if they blend in, I could have missed them.
Once your grape vine really starts growing, it will fill in that area below the arbor pretty quick but that could take several years. Straw or leaves either one will work fine to cover the base of the Grape vine and after a winter or two, it should be strong enough not to matter.
We are starting to get a bunch of bother zucchini and yellow squash, picked 5 zucchini and 4 yellow squash today. We got so much last week, we had to start blanching and freezing it.
Saw our first small watermelon today and I picked two carrots as well but still no green beansFrown.
Went fishing up to Willard today and as we drove back, I noticed they were already taking peaches to the roadside stands. I should be getting some from my trees by the end of the month.


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Our neighbor has kids that live in Brigham City, they gave us a bag of apricots they bought when coming home - they were the best ones we've ever eaten, just makes us really hope for the peaches/nectarines - they come to Morgan to sell them on Saturday mornings and its a feeding frenzy business for this guy. I'm sure Jeff will calling him to see when he thinks he'll be arriving. Utah peaches are the best!

Yeah it was strange break like it was, so that is why I wondered about young large bird possibly trying to land on top but who knows. Never seen racoon out here, maybe too far from river Crazy.

House next to our park went up in huge smoke and fire, still smoldering over 3 hours later. Haven't yet got word if everyone was ok, what caused the fire and if we'll be on water restrictions till all our wells can refill - glad we have our all our water storage. Had fire departments from S. Ogden, Morgan City, and Mtn Green. It looks like maybe total loss, it was a Log home. Sad. Frown Scary

No green beans here either, not sure what the deal is with them.
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I've noticed a bunch of trees around here are loaded with apricots, I've often wondered about getting some and running them through the Freeze dryer, to see how they would turn out, have you tried that before?
Raccoons prefer being near water but when the young of the year start leaving home, as they are now, you never know how far they will roam. The one you got in that water tank is a good example of that. I knew it was around because of the damage it was doing around my yard, I first started seeing little holes dug around my water sprinklers. Then when the peaches were getting ripe, I found scat in my garden and branches broken on my tree. Since they are rarely seen during the day it's not surprising you haven't seem one up there but they are around. My friend that lives down from you in Mountain Green has them there, so I'm sure you have them as well.
Too bad about that house burning down, hopefully no one was hurt.
I've been seeing a bunch of bees on my green bean plants, hopefully we will start seeing beans soon.


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We have freeze dried peaches, they make for nice snack come winter. Never re-hydrated them though. Tomorrow we are making some jerky (using a dehydrator not freeze dryer) and we'll share it with our son (good in car snack at work).

We've not seen a racoon dead or alive - maybe its all our feral cats (we have tons) besides a certain neighbor, we're sure others drop them off around here thinking with all these farms and ranches we must need some cats - NO WE DON"T.

Soon as we eat up some fresh veggies in fridge, I'll be picking a cabbage, its grown so well this year. I've had 4 harvests (enough for the two of us each time) of broccoli the first time ever so that has been fun/tasty.

The burned house is total loss. They used big back hoe to knock in some outer walls at about midnight last night. Then today as they stated digging up the all that was in the pile in het basement, it all caught fire once again. But only Morgan FD was called to assist with keeping it under control as they lifted remains out onto the yard area they would hose them down really well. Neighbors all provided shelter tents/lawn chairs and cold drinking water for the firemen while they waited for each load to be pulled out and taking turns to hose it down. So far no watering restrictions so that's nice.

Well Jeff did all pre-OP stuff this morning, then we ran errands -so its all done we're ready for his next surgery on the 19th. We're actually looking forward to it, odd as that sounds, but his other new knee is feeling oh so much better, Doc says it should just keep getting better for up to a year.
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We do a lot of peaches every year, just never tried freeze drying apricots but we have dehydrated apricots and they are great that way.
Yes, feral cats are problem just about everywhere, I always see their tracks in my garden area but I've never seen them do any damage, except when the plants are small, right after they come through the soil.
Saw my first small green bean this morning, hopefully see more soon.
I knew Jeff's surgery was coming up soon, I bet he will glad to have it done and behind him. Do you think you two will get out one more time before the surgery for one last fishing trip? I'm guessing after the surgery he won't get out for the rest of the year.


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I was going tell you, I too am seeing really small beans starting on my pole beans as well. Hoorah! Hopefully we'll actually get to eat some before the first frost occurs.

Not sure if we'll get out before the surgery, but maybe we'll be ready for fall fishing PV, we'll see. They do start PT the evening of his surgery and again the next morning before I bring him home so they get them up and out as soon as they can. Since Willard seems to be down to catfish (not our favorites but ok) catching for the most part but we're not out of fish from the freezer so maybe this is a good time for getting those knees done as it is forcing us to eat more of the vac-packed fish - LOL


Went to drop our truck off at our son's house probably for about a week so he can get some more yardwork done. But while we were there we did pick up some PVC fittings to build the greenhouse/deer netting framework I wanted for the SP box - even if next year we end up planting something else in it being able to green house it will be nice and later a bird netting canopy should protect it from deer munching.

Well, I'd better get that jerky mixed up and started soon.
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Good deal, seems kind of late in the Summer but maybe we will get a few pickings before it's over for the year. I know you have less time up there but I should have at least two more months.
I thought you guys might get up to Jordanelle or the Berry before the season is over, doesn't should like that is in the cards though. Good thing you have the extra fish in the freezer or maybe some still cannedUnsure.
Do you build your greenhouse/deer netting framework square or rounded on the top?


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This greenhouse / deer netting top will be out of PVC arches that we can just lift off as needed. Once we build it (maybe tomorrow) and set it is place I'll grab some pics of it. then for the winter the whole framework can be hung up in taller half of the detached garage till spring. Some use the PVC slid over rebar spikes but then they aren't too moveable so we've modified the approach for what we plan to do with it. you can also make PVC clamps from scrap pieces we all seem to accumulate to use as clamps to hold the plastic or netting in place - I'll take a picture of how they work as well.


Jeff looked at my beans starts and he agrees that is probably what they are - so we just may see some harvest yet.

Nothing on watermelons, but they are blooming, just not sure if we end up with any.

Yes, we do also have some canned salmon. We should do just fine at least till next season.
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Ok, here's the assembled PVC greenhouse / netting framework. It still needs a pvc piece that will go across the top for added structural support and to keep the hoop sides stabilized but you'll get the idea of what I was trying to explain.
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Nice, that looks pretty easy to make but how do you decide how tall to make them? Did you use 1/2" PVC or 3/4? Picked a green bean today and noticed a bunch more coming on, starting to get a bunch of zucchini, a few yellow squash.


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1/2 inch PVC the height was determined by the precut lengths of PVC when you buy it. Now we'll use scraps of 3/4" to make the 'clamps' for holding the plastic or netting on. I'll take pics of the 'clamps' once we get them made up.

None of my beans are even close to ready to ready top pick. Frown But I did pick 2 of my squash.

The Armenian cuke has really taken off, the largest is over 8" already.

The cabbages are really getting close to harvestable sizes.


Checked over the watermelons and from what I can tell, all the flowers it has are males! so that is why no fruit. Wonder if that is because we grew them from seeds we saved?

I planted round two of the peas today for fall harvest.
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It could be a way that the watermelon plant ensures the female flowers get pollinated, the male flowers start first, then when there are bees because of all the male flowers, the female ones start coming out. That is just a guess on my part but we could google itWink. That one watermelon I had that started to grow must not have been pollinated because it has not grown since I first saw itFrown. I've never had the problem you are describing with seeds I've saved.


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we're up to two tiny watermelons starting, not sure they'll get to eating size, but still nice to see something has set anyway.

harvested the largest cabbage yesterday, and our 1st Armenian cuke.
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I looked again today and the one watermelon I first saw was turning brown, so I guess it did not get pollinated but after looking around some more I found two more melons that look to be doing good. Still no cantaloupe though and my cucumbers are no bigger than two or three leaves so far, so I'm not sure how that will turn outFrown.
Glad you got a couple of W melons coming on too, how big/long was the cabbage and Armenian cuke?


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Cabbage was 5-6 inches across, cuke was about 20" . Oh and I saw a 2 inch green bean last night and orange tomato (both in my bales) that I didn't see earlier in the day so it was a really nice surprise.

We got down to 48* last night, 10* cooler than forecasted. Got the house down to 60, a nice temp for afternoon temps, but a bit chilly with the fans blowing through Laugh

My today's job is to start tackling (pruning back) those side shrubs while its still a nicer temp this week.
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They were predicting lower temps here last night 58 degrees and that was what it got down to. From what I remember your temps up there are usually 10 degrees cooler than our. As a matter of fact they are predicting lower overnight temps all week here:
https://www.ksl.com/weather/forecast
I guess it's time to start cutting back on watering times, seems kind of early for it to be cooling down but I'll take it after all the heat we got last month.
Grapes are starting to ripen, they are kind of tart now but they will be much sweeter in the next month.


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yeah often that is correct, it was just so much cooler than the ksl app on my phone had predicted it would be so it was shocking to be that far off.

Got dumpster of tree trimming done so that is all I could fit for this week. Next week, while Jeff is in recovery mode, I'll fill the dumpster with another load and still will need several more weeks before its all done. Luckily we never fill our dumpster with normal garbage so using that left over space for my trimmings works nicely.
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Man that some temps for this time of year. I forget about those low numbers near Sept. I planted grapes here last spring and so far ok. Half my Elderberries didn't make it but 4 plants should be enough for some wine in a few years. My lettuce, Rudabackers and Bok Choi came up, but some bug seems to like them better.


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When you say dumpster are you talking about your trash can? If you have a dumpster full of tree trimmings that seems like a lotUnsure. This is what I think about when I hear the word dumpster:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster


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What kind of grapes did you plant? When I first planted my grape vine, it took several years before I started getting grapes. Elderberries, I've heard that make great wineCool.


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Yeah the wheeled kind of trash can, sorry for that confusion.
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LOL, I thought so because I've never noticed a dumpster at your place but I thought maybe there was a community dumpster nearby.


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Last 2 nights we been down into the upper 40s.

Found some more watermelons have set fruit - now we just cant have early frosts. If we even get close in the forecasts we'll be covering a lot of plants with the frost cloths.
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Hasn't been that cold here, only in the low 60's. Nice going on the watermelons, now they will have to grow fastWink.
I haven't taken any recent pics of my whole garden, so here they are. I took pics of everything, except for the carrots, this time and I'll label each one. The pic of box #1 shows yellow squash and carrots, mixed in together. Same with the pic of the zucchini(Z), they are mixed with the buttercup(BC) plants. I won't do that again next year, mix BC and Z. In the pic of box #2, you can see the broom sticking up from the end of the box, that gives you an idea of just how much has grown out of the boxCrazy.


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Wow some of your stuff has really taken off. Our watermelons just don't seem to be growing all that fast so not sure we'll even get any of them this year, but it is that ring's first year, next year should do even better.


Today we picked another cuke, several squash and 2 tomatoes. Jeff reseeded more lettuce and radishes, and round 2 of our peas-in-pots are now 1-2 inches up so doing well.


Got the call from the hospital about Jeff's surgery Monday, we have to be there by 6AM, so looks like this time we should be first in line - fingers crossed...


Your canned salmon was pretty tasty, we just finished it today. Thanks.

Now I have to load some new software (genealogy) on my computer now, my old software is no longer supported, but luckily, the new stuff with convert my files over 'easily' (or so their advertisement says - LOL) here goes....
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We haven't planted radishes in years, how many rounds of them can you grow per year? Maybe we will give them a try next year.
Wow 6am, that is early, that will likely put him in first place for sure. Best wishes/prayers.
Glad you liked the salmon, it is packed in there pretty tight but after flaking it up, it's not too bad.
Picked 21 green beans today, I was really surprised because some of them were pretty big, so I must have missed them before. In just the right light you can see stuff that you would otherwise miss.
They are doing the big reveal today on the Extreme Home Makeover house. Starts at 4 pm, so we are heading over there about 3:30. I doubt they will let us see the inside but it should be pretty cool to see the family get their new home. Amazing they built it all in one week, including a shed and a garden plus solar panels on the roof. Here is a pic from a few days ago, before they got the lawn in. Not the best pic because they would not let us get too close but hopefully we will get more pics later today.


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Probably for you, we think at least 4 would be probable.

We pack our salmon in tight like you did so it was no problem at all.


Picked our first green bean, but I think it really wasn't ready, it even tasted green if that makes sense. Crazy


Watch KSL news hoping to see the reveal on the news tonight but they really didn't show much said HGTV was going to show it on their next season.... but from your picture we got a pretty good idea about it. I'm sure we'll get to see it next time we stop by your place.


Well, think we've pretty much got everything we wanted to get done before his surgery done a day early so now we just have to wait for Monday. Thanks for the best wishes/prayers. Once again he's going to Ogden Regional.
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Wow, that would be a lot, we usually get tired of radishes after the first picking but it has been so long, maybe we could plant three different types for three plantings, just the break it up. We have done the normal red and white type but never had much luck with the white variety. Is there a type that isn't hot?
Here are a few more pics from the EMO house.


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We only do small batch at a time and just red and white ones. They are nice touch sliced into a salad.

That's a cute house, really nice carport - guess this house actually faces the other street and not your street, right? still amazes me.
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Yes, it faces East, the first pic is one of guys on that TV show, Modern Family, the second pic is the side view, the third pic is of the little garden they planted on the side of the house, the forth pic in a straight on pic of the front of the House.
Hope Jeff's operation was a success.


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Really cute house that's for sure. We've never watched any episodes of Modern Family so not sure who the guy is, but still cool that he'd want to be a part of all this. We look forward to seeing the Reveal on HGTV so we can see inside - the paper said it should air in early 2020.


Surgery took longer than they had planned, we're not sure why. But his doc said his knee was so bad he doesn't know how he was even walking with it. So it is so nice that that's now in our past. On to physical therapy. Yeehah!
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I believe he is the new host on the show. Wow, it's not coming out until 2020, guess we have a while to wait then.
Picked more green beans today, got 44 this time, they are really coming on now.
Glad to hear Jeff made it through the surgery ok, even if it took longer.


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Took a few pics of my garden after I pulled up just about all my buttercup, they were frosted pretty good. Got a little frost on my zucchini and yellow squash but they are still hanging in there for the most part.


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How's your rocking project coming along? Think you'll get it finished before winter really sets in?
Got half of it done a few days ago, not sure if I'll get it all done before Winter sets in. It's going to warm up some next week, so I'll keep at it until the temps stay below 32 degrees. Once the temps stay below 32 degrees, I'll be done, until Spring. Here is a pic of what I've done so far.


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WOW, its looking really nice!

We're both supposed to have record cold temps tonight, teens for us, so maybe 20s for you, but yes next week is looking to be better. So we'll get some stuff (reinforcing, windows, walkways, raised beds built/installed) done inside it then.

Today was a PT day for Jeff, then a doc follow up appt, so we ran errands while we were in town. So no greenhouse work. I did see the high in the greenhouse was 120 degrees so it is warming nicely, just cooling off to outside temps at night. We'll only be looking to keep it warm enough so things won't freeze. Think it'll only be a 3 season greenhouse, not a 4 season as that'd be too expensive for our needs.

Any idea why my SPs came out looing more like carrots than potatoes? I'm going to give them a try again next year, using my own slips this time, so I'll start them going in the greenhouse in pots if necessary then transplant them to other locations once any frost scares have past. This should get us a little longer growing season. Fingers crossed.
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It was down to 27 overnight here and they are saying even colder tonight. Pulled up all my garden plants today, except for the carrots, they still look ok and since they are below ground, they will be fine for a little while yet.
The sun is the biggest issue you guys have for growing bigger SP but the shorter season up there doesn't help either. I think the GH will help for sure.


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Any idea why my SPs came out looing more like carrots than potatoes? I'm going to give them a try again next year, using my own slips this time, so I'll start them going in the greenhouse in pots if necessary then transplant them to other locations once any frost scares have past. This should get us a little longer growing season. Fingers crossed.
Another thing that might help you SP grow larger is deeper boxes, I can't remember how deep your boxes are but IMO they should be at least 12" deep and sandy loamy soil is much better than a lot of clay type soil.


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12 inches, loamy due top lots of organic matter but our soil isn't too sandy like yours is. Ours son in Clearfield has soil like yours, I envy having that kind of soil. Seems we've never lucked out getting that kind soil to start with. It also has a ton small of rocks in it, which is why we stated using more raised beds to begin with.

The new location of the SP box should give it more sun so I'm hoping that along with getting the plants really jump started in pots in the greenhouse lengthening their growing season I hope will help as well. Guess next season will just be another experimenting season. Looking forward to it already.
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I guess when you change things up, you always have to do some experimenting to figure it out but there is always the hope that things will improve. I know next year I likely won't be growing buttercup, because they take up too much room, as they grow and the vines go all over the place. My cucks never did produce anything this year, so I'll likely plant them in a new location next year.


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Here is my last pics of this years garden, I'll edit this post and add them later but for now here is the last pic of my buttercup squash as we processes our last batch. 20 total in this group.
We did not get any cucumbers this year and the two small crenshaw's that grew did not ripen enough to eatFrown. Everything else in the garden did pretty good except for the water melon.


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That's a lot squash, how are you 'processing' it?


I read a book that I've taken some exceprts from via a photo about some ideas for making a GH like what we did for the SP box only on larger scale. (I'll edit this to include those pics once I have them titled and saved).

One thing the book covered was the temperature values between outside temps, inside low tunnel and inside a tunnel that is inside a greenhouse to give you double coverage protectiion. You'll find it interesting how much of difference that double covering can make.

Next year, we may use the double covering to see how long into winter we can still harvest some crops. We won't start new seeds but we will start the seeds in late fall, so we can harvest throughout the winter - that was premise of this book. It'll be fun to know. Maybe it will be something you'll find useful to use in that GH you were assembling.

Update: Well, too many photos to easily post them so I'll email them directly to you.
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I guess you can see the peeled squash behind the one that isn't cut up, well after we peel them, we cut up the squash in 1" squares, we blanch them, bag them, then freeze them.
The pics you sent me look exactly like the method we used to put up that green house, except for the method we used to clamp the plastic down. Maybe you are just talking about me making a smaller GH for SP but that isn't something I have room for at this point. but might consider in the future, if we decide to do that I'll have some reference to go by, thanks Jil.


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We'd never have enough space in our freezers for that much with all our vacuum packed fish - LOLWink

I didn't know your set up so wasn't sure, still its good to have ideas, at least you'd have a starting point. That works best for me anyway. That GH in the book was designed so they could relocate it to other beds as needed also once summer hits for sure they remove the plastic and leave it open like ground garden would be.

GH got up to 91 today, but its currently down to 60 already. We had lots of shopping errands today, so now that we are back home, I need to go do a bit more leveling inside the GH so we can layout fabric before we build our raised boxes.

Well, I'd better get out there before Jeff realizes I am not doing what I said I was going to do - LOL
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All you need is a bigger freezer, remember, mine is 6 ft long and over 3 ft deep, you could put a lot of stuff in a freezer that big.


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We do have two fridge freezers and a full size upright, but we still run outta space.

The phrase,'if you build (have the extra space) they will come (you will eventually fill it up)' applies in our case.

Got the leveling completed. Today's goal, we lay the fabric, then build the boxes. Well make a shopping errand as we want to lay down a layer of pea gravel where the walkway that will get the pavers will be. Once the beds are in place we can spread the gravel in it those walkways.
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What we freeze in our freezer is usually gone by next years growing season. That will for sure be true this year because of our smaller garden size but we still have a few bags of buttercup, peaches and stuffed bell peppers from 2018.


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