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how to add oars to a float tube?
i have seen some really neat float tubes in japanese website that has oars on them.
i tried to check if those listed here as recommended float tubes had them but found none to carry oars.
is there a simple, cheap and good way to install them on an Fish Cat, Fat Cat or H3?

any help will be most appreciated.

ps: sorry, i am not too familiar with how this forum is organised yet so if i had done anything against the rules here, please kindly advice me.
(This post was edited by Alan_Ang on Jul 9, 2009, 12:35 AM)
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
CoolWelcome to our forum. No need to be apologetic. Your post and your questions are fine. There are several new "hybrid" pontubes on the market, with oars, but I am not sure we can advise you on a good way to add oars to the craft you mentioned.

The H3 has a long enough front extension that you might be able to fashion a frame for attaching the oars. But, neither the Fat Cats nor the Fish Cats have enough room on top to set up an effective rowing system. At least that is my opinion.

I have fished from a Fat Cat for several years and have looked seriously at being able to install oars. My personal conclusion is that it would be POSSIBLE to add oars, but they would have to be very small and would be difficult to operate in the confined space of the float tube.

However, if you could fashion a framework that fit across the top of your tube, and extended at least a foot or so beyond the outside on each side, you might be able to get enough room to operate the oars.

The Dave Scadden line of pontoons and float tubes probably have the best examples of well designed small craft that will accomodate either or both oars or electric motors. You may wish to check their website at http://www.northforkoutdoors.com/

At least you can look at the designs and perhaps get some ideas on what you would have to do in order to get oars on your float tube.

Good luck.
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
To be able to put OARS on, you need first OAR HOLDERS, which need to be solid, secondly a foot rest
This requires a FRAME of some sort, or pre-manufactured.
Here is another choice:

http://www.supercat.us/site/412251/page/118491

Now a paddle is a different story.



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Re: [TubeDude] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
this is the reason why i asked... it looks great, isn't it?
i was thinking of fashioning a strap by the side of the tubes to hold the oar holder... is it possible with the fat cats or h3?
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
CoolThanks for the picture. It is very interesting and shows that it can be done. It looks like a simple stabilizer bar arrangement.

I have had an H3 as well as my Fat Cats. Both have a D ring on the top front of the air chambers, on either side, that would be strategically placed to help fasten something like that in place. The attached picture shows the one on the H3.

The one disadvantage of having oars on a float tube is the lack of a foot rest, to help provide leverage for rowing. But, the positive side of that is that you can use both oar power and fin power at the same time if you are in a hurry. Of course, that will take both coordination and stamina.

You know, I might just try to fashion something like that for my tube. Thanks for the idea.
image/jpeg TOP D RING.jpg (292 KB)
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Re: [TubeDude] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
i don't think it is the bar... this pic will give you a clearer picture...



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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
CoolYes, it is easier to see now that the oar attachment is on the outside of the air chamber. I also got a better look by going to the ZephyrBoat website at http://www.zephyrboat.jp/boat/index.html

Like some of the other hybrid pontubes on the market, these craft were apparently designed to provide rowing capability. To add a similar system to a float tube not originally designed for it would require some engineering.
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
I considered a kayak paddle with my U-boat. But now that I'm committed to the ODC 420 with a rod holder on the side ...

><>It's easy to be a fisher of men: All you do is cast: caught Not only does God catch them, He even cleans 'em. ><>
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
If I want oars , then I would just get a toon and be done
with it.

Peter
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Now that is cool as heck. That is the same OAR set-up that was on the Navigator II by North Fork Outdoors. But, they have been discontinued.
My Navigator was the first generation and had a plate sewn in the cover in which you attach a pipe for the oars
And of course it was 9' long so it had two low "D" rings to attach a bar for your feet.
I am betting that strap at the front of the tube is for your feet.

I think it is a killer idea and thank you for turning me on to that.
It is a FRAMELESS tube with rowing capability as well as kicking. I know I have got caught in storms in my tube that I would have killed to have oars.
I bought a PONTOON, because there wasn't anything, or so I thought.

I would say as far as fabricating one, the Oar holders on my Navi would be home madeable, but this has some fancy hardware and I am wondering if the ring around it is important. Good looking seat also and functional apron.



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Re: [flygoddess] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
It is a FRAMELESS tube with rowing capability as well as kicking. I know I have got caught in storms in my tube that I would have killed to have oars.
I bought a PONTOON, because there wasn't anything, or so I thought.

Are oars really that much better then fins ? Is it easyer
to use oars then fins in wind? I have never used oars, so
I dont know.Please tell.

Peter
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Re: [peter805] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
I wouldn't say INSTEAD but with. Your legs get tired and you row, but yes rowing is much faster than kicking and much easier.



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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
If unable to mount the oars I believe I saw it at Walmart a small orange paddle that was extendable. This might be an option.

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TubeDude wrote:
CoolYes, it is easier to see now that the oar attachment is on the outside of the air chamber. I also got a better look by going to the ZephyrBoat website at http://www.zephyrboat.jp/boat/index.html

Like some of the other hybrid pontubes on the market, these craft were apparently designed to provide rowing capability. To add a similar system to a float tube not originally designed for it would require some engineering.
Hi TD, thanks for finding the official website. I had been trying to google for it with no success! lol...
I had always thought that adding oars are as easy as adding a strap-on around the tubes on the side and then tie it to the oars. lol... I am a real noob at this...
If I can do an easy attachment, I will just go with the cheaper option: fish cat and then add the oars. else, i will need to consider that zephyr baby... which will cost about 45,000JPY (approx USD450) excl. shipping.
Tough decision...
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Re: [revrusty] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
revrusty wrote:
I considered a kayak paddle with my U-boat. But now that I'm committed to the ODC 420 with a rod holder on the side ...
wooo... care to share some pictures of your oar attachment?
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Re: [peter805] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
peter805 wrote:
If I want oars , then I would just get a toon and be done
with it.

Peter
i would love to have a toon if not for a few reasons:
1. price
2. size
3. there's really **limited waters in singapore that allows me to put a toon in it

**in singapore, we only have less than 10 stretches of fishing ground at our reservoirs, each not exceeding 50m in length. and these spots are all over-fished.
as we do not have a licensing system in place yet, fishing anywhere else in the reservoirs is considered illegal and liable for booking and a fine.
there are spots within the reservoirs that are away from the eyes of the law but requires lots of trekking and bashing through some heavy undergrowth. hence, my choice of getting a tube. but at the same time, i do hope to cover more waters, hence, the oars.
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Re: [flygoddess] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
flygoddess wrote:
Now that is cool as heck. That is the same OAR set-up that was on the Navigator II by North Fork Outdoors. But, they have been discontinued.
My Navigator was the first generation and had a plate sewn in the cover in which you attach a pipe for the oars
And of course it was 9' long so it had two low "D" rings to attach a bar for your feet.
I am betting that strap at the front of the tube is for your feet.

I think it is a killer idea and thank you for turning me on to that.
It is a FRAMELESS tube with rowing capability as well as kicking. I know I have got caught in storms in my tube that I would have killed to have oars.
I bought a PONTOON, because there wasn't anything, or so I thought.

I would say as far as fabricating one, the Oar holders on my Navi would be home madeable, but this has some fancy hardware and I am wondering if the ring around it is important. Good looking seat also and functional apron.
Thanks FG. And great note on the strap... I wouldn't have noticed it with my novice eyes if not for you.
The float tube looked cool as hell to me excellent for my covert operations at our local reservoirs. hahaha...
Anyways, I am now joining up with a team of guys to legalise and free up more fishing grounds in Singapore. Sure hope to see it happen real soon!
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Re: [albinotrout] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
albinotrout wrote:
If unable to mount the oars I believe I saw it at Walmart a small orange paddle that was extendable. This might be an option.
i guess that will be an option but i would prefer something more sturdy and easy to tuck away. so some sort of tricking will be required to achieve that... or i can just go with the zephyrboat.
btw, i think the zephyrboats are probably not suitable for you guys since japanese, like most asians are smaller in size. and i am thinking fat cat and SFC will be too spacious for me. lol...
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Right on Alan, keep up the good fight.

Here is the simple oar system on my Navigator:
This is a curved aluminum plate with a post of solid aluminum about 1" diameter and 2" long. Sewn under a heavy piece of PVC coated cloth



In this picture you see the Aluminum tubes (about 6" long for clearance) mounted on the post with a clip. At the top is removeable oar holder that clamps to the oar itself. Easy set up.





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Re: [flygoddess] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
flygoddess wrote:
Right on Alan, keep up the good fight.

Here is the simple oar system on my Navigator:
This is a curved aluminum plate with a post of solid aluminum about 1" diameter and 2" long. Sewn under a heavy piece of PVC coated cloth

[IMG]http://i44.photobucket.com/..._1721450-1.jpg[/IMG]

In this picture you see the Aluminum tubes (about 6" long for clearance) mounted on the post with a clip. At the top is removeable oar holder that clamps to the oar itself. Easy set up.

[IMG]http://i44.photobucket.com/...1.jpg[/IMG]

thanks FG for the pics... the Navigator II looks great. can the whole craft be packed into a carry bag? looks like a pretty big craft from your pics...
(This post was edited by Alan_Ang on Jul 9, 2009, 10:02 PM)
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Re: [flygoddess] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
check these out!


image/jpeg oars2.jpg (38.3 KB)
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(This post was edited by Alan_Ang on Jul 9, 2009, 10:11 PM)
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
looks good and they might just work!Wink

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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
It can and yes the bag is big, but weighs around 34 lbs.
But, again, it is 9' long. It is a regular pontoon but no frame.

the shelf is optional, but holds a battery, motor and gear.



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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Alan_Ang wrote:
check these out!

WOW look at that.................
I like a lot.

Peter
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Re: [peter805] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
i am almost sold on the zephyrboats... or at least, their optional items... they all look great! every mod that i have seen for tricking tubes are available. really impressive...
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Alan_Ang wrote:
check these out!

Who makes those?! Way cool. Not sure there's enough room on my FishCat, but I'd love to check out a set up close.

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Re: [SHigSpeed] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
zephyrboat makes them.
http://www.zephyrboat.jp/boat/index.html
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Re: [flygoddess] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
flygoddess wrote:
Right on Alan, keep up the good fight.
a new society is being set up at the moment to promote conservation and rehabilitation of the environment plundered by fishing.
it is now also communicating with government authorities to open up more waters for study and subsequently opening it up for fishing (with conservation education included)
the society will also be the body to craft out a license and education program to allow more fishing.
i have not made up my mind yet about which tube to get but once i do, it will be put to good use in testing the waters opened up to the society for testing/study/rehab/conservation purpose.
really hope it takes off soon.
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Alan_Ang wrote:
check these out!

That really makes sense. I would be really surprised if no one did cap on this idea.
This would be awesome on the H3!!!!

I have to ask, do you have something to do with this Alan? Seems you had all the great answers to your own question.
Don't get me wrong, I like all the new info you have added here, but you were like two steps ahead of us all the wayWink



(This post was edited by flygoddess on Jul 15, 2009, 11:22 AM)
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Re: [flygoddess] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
flygoddess wrote:
That really makes sense. I would be really surprised if no one did cap on this idea.
This would be awesome on the H3!!!!

I have to ask, do you have something to do with this Alan? Seems you had all the great answers to your own question.
Don't get me wrong, I like all the new info you have added here, but you were like two steps ahead of us all the wayWink
it does seem that way, doesn't it... lol...
nah... i have nothing to do with them. in fact, if not for TD who found the link to Zephyrboat website, i wouldn't have been able to find the answers.

oh yah... and lastly, i sure hope i have something to do with it... then i wouldn't have to still be putting on the thinking cap to think which tube to buy... sigh...
(This post was edited by Alan_Ang on Jul 15, 2009, 3:57 PM)
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
I feel a little rain falling on someone's picnic with this ..... but:

Don't forget that a float's advantage is compactness, portability, simplicity and hands free manoeuvering where both hands are available for holding the fishing rod.

Without the "hands free element, either a kayak or a pontoon becomes a more efficient small water fishing craft. Both have superior water speed and range than a float tube, but the need to put the rod in a rest reduces their fishing value significantly.

Oars on a tube:
add weight
add bulk when put away
necessitate "rod out of hands" fishing style which is a far less efficient way to fish

So yes they are an intriguing idea. But the same reason for choosing a tube with oars also tilts the balance for choice of a pontoon/sit-on-top kayak at time of purchase in preference to the tube.

Norm

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IrishFloatTube wrote:
I feel a little rain falling on someone's picnic with this ..... but:

Don't forget that a float's advantage is compactness, portability, simplicity and hands free manoeuvering where both hands are available for holding the fishing rod.

Without the "hands free element, either a kayak or a pontoon becomes a more efficient small water fishing craft. Both have superior water speed and range than a float tube, but the need to put the rod in a rest reduces their fishing value significantly.

Oars on a tube:
add weight
add bulk when put away
necessitate "rod out of hands" fishing style which is a far less efficient way to fish

So yes they are an intriguing idea. But the same reason for choosing a tube with oars also tilts the balance for choice of a pontoon/sit-on-top kayak at time of purchase in preference to the tube.
i beg to differ... if you look closer, you will realise that the oars can be clipped to the side without hindering any freedom of your hands or cause resistance of the craft in the water. oh yah... they still put on flippers in these babies...
i do agree though that it will add some weight and also take away some space. but for someone who wants to cover more water, i believe the pros outweighs the cons.

what i am saying is: it really depends on your objectives and needs.



for me, it is very suitable since, my needs are to cover as much grounds as possible in an area which i need much better portability than carrying a pontoon. this stuff suits me just fine.

that being said, it may or may not be suitable for other tubers. so yah... all tubers gotta look at how it suits his own requirements.

cheers!
(This post was edited by Alan_Ang on Jul 16, 2009, 1:31 AM)
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Could not agree with you more Alan. That is why when the pontoon that i have now wears out i am gonna have one heck of a time trying to figure out if i want a new Outlaw X5 or a Hobie Mirage Pro Angler kayak. Its gonna be a tuff one to decide. There are pros and cons to both. I got a while yet to think about it lol so im not to concerned lol.


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Re: [bigpikeguy] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
From what I understand...the Hobie only goes forward. Could be wrong
Plus the X5, you can stand comfortably, and it folds down...even has a carrying bag.

I agree that the slight WEIGHT difference on the Oar as the un Oar is minor.
They are both still compact. Would both be hard to back pack in to high mountain lakes at all.
Having the oars to get off water FAST is a HUGE plus, specially when that storm that raises the hair on your arms moves in.

Hands free...still there and always will be. There is a trolling advantage while rowing.
One doesn't row all the time. It is just a way to get from point A to point B in a hurry or when legs get too tired.

I see pluses all the way!



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Re: [flygoddess] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
It is really a float tube that as a bonus contains some of the attributes of a pontoon.
Somebody used the term "PONTUBE" in the past, and that is exactly what this craft is.
I agree that the oars as an auxiliary are interesting, and in a breeze that would challenge normal fin power they will be useful. Also for covering a long distance to the fishing area, the oars are a good option.

Something tells me that we will probably see more manufacturers producing these hybrid craft in the future, which are more portable than the average metal frame pontoon, and presumeably faster than the average float tube..

How would flygoddess compare this craft to the echo for example?

The closest competitor product, speaking performance-wise, to these is probably an inflatable kayak.

Norm

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Re: [IrishFloatTube] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
The Echo is not set up for rowing, but with this set up and a strap across the front for your feet, it would rock!
Your butt is in the water a little with the Echo also so I am not sure if the point of a V tube is an advantage to the two pontoons with some seat in the middle.
I do know from owning both, the Echo does fly.



(This post was edited by flygoddess on Jul 16, 2009, 1:07 PM)
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IrishFloatTube wrote:
It is really a float tube that as a bonus contains some of the attributes of a pontoon.
Somebody used the term "PONTUBE" in the past, and that is exactly what this craft is.
I agree that the oars as an auxiliary are interesting, and in a breeze that would challenge normal fin power they will be useful. Also for covering a long distance to the fishing area, the oars are a good option.

My technique when using oars must suck. I just cant seem to get the speed or distance everyone refers to. Even in my pontoons that are built for speed, it is slow going and inefficient for me. I can go 100 yards in perfect conditions but then the blisters start and it feels like pushing a rock uphill compared to what I can do with long oars in a heavy rowboat! The points of my pontoon zig zag or dip down catching water and slowing me as my weight shifts around during the rowing motion. Any part that hangs down in the water (butt, feet, fins, fish basket, PVC parts, etc.) feels like a parachute when I try to row fast (1mph+) or far (1 mile+). Probably I'm just used to going further and faster with less effort in a kayak or canoe.... Guess its time to practice getting a good rhythm down to see what this potential for oars is....

Hey, another good thing about oars is- they can be used for slapping snakes or gators Smile

Just saying, FWIW.


Pon.

Something tells me that we will probably see more manufacturers producing these hybrid craft in the future, which are more portable than the average metal frame pontoon, and presumeably faster than the average float tube..

How would flygoddess compare this craft to the echo for example?

The closest competitor product, speaking performance-wise, to these is probably an inflatable kayak.
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Re: [pontoonman] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
HUH?

Okay, I don't know if this works or not, but a small video of me casually rowing. This is in the Navigator. The BIG "V" pontube.
Center of the tube (my seat) I am sure is hitting the water on the row, but no effect.

http://s44.photobucket.com/...=1&os=1&ap=1


let me know if this works.



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It worked.Fishin'

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you can realy move fast. I maybe ready for toon sooner
then I think.....................

Peter
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pontoonman wrote:

My technique when using oars must suck. I just cant seem to get the speed or distance everyone refers to. Even in my pontoons that are built for speed, it is slow going and inefficient for me. I can go 100 yards in perfect conditions but then the blisters start and it feels like pushing a rock uphill compared to what I can do with long oars in a heavy rowboat! The points of my pontoon zig zag or dip down catching water and slowing me as my weight shifts around during the rowing motion. Any part that hangs down in the water (butt, feet, fins, fish basket, PVC parts, etc.) feels like a parachute when I try to row fast (1mph+) or far (1 mile+). Probably I'm just used to going further and faster with less effort in a kayak or canoe.... Guess its time to practice getting a good rhythm down to see what this potential for oars is....

Hey, another good thing about oars is- they can be used for slapping snakes or gators Smile

Just saying, FWIW.


Pon.

Pontoon man. Exactly what kickboat's do you have? You won't show any pictures, you claim to have tiny motors that run on cordless power drill batteries, yet you have problems rowing? You have a kickboat made for speed? All this just doesn't make sense. You give some decent advise now and again, but I just don't get you. My Outlaw X5, same as FG's. With my GPS that I carry onboard, I can row 4 mph without breaking a sweat. I thought the Cardiac Canyons were fast. When I casually row, I average 2.2 mph. It goes in a straight line. It's 10' long, 5' 6" wide and has 15 ½" diameter toons. The footprint isn't all that big though. This thing just flat out flies. I'll have FG make a vid of it and you'll see. I don't row to see how fast I can go, I did it once to see the results. Rowing this boat is just a fun thing. I can't really explain it.
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Re: [flygoddess] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
this is really a great community you guys have here... people here are all so receptive to ideas and open to discussions.
i am so surprised by the amount of discussion my little 'venture' into this topic had resulted.
my boss (a japanese) recently learned of my contemplation of getting a tube from japan and has volunteered to help me bring one over to singapore when he goes back to his country for holidays.
now... he is really tempting me big time on the zephyrboat!!!
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Sounds like you may have a good thing starting there.

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Sounds like you may have a good thing starting there.
i am not so sure since the thing ain't come cheap! thinking thinking thinking... tempted tempted tempted... arrrrggghhh...
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Cool

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Alan_Ang wrote:
albinotrout wrote:
Sounds like you may have a good thing starting there.
i am not so sure since the thing ain't come cheap! thinking thinking thinking... tempted tempted tempted... arrrrggghhh...

Sometimes you just have to DO IT!!!!!!!!!
money is not everything and we (YOU) live just once
so get out there and enjoy and have a good time.
Or I will come to you kick your little a$$ for not doint it.Smile

Just me 2c

Peter
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peter805 wrote:
Sometimes you just have to DO IT!!!!!!!!!
money is not everything and we (YOU) live just once
so get out there and enjoy and have a good time.
Or I will come to you kick your little a$$ for not doint it.Smile

Just me 2c

Peter
wow! such a big reaction! hahaha... i am most probably gunning for it. my boss is not going till end of the month and only back after 2 weeks of holidays there. so i still have a bit of time to make my decision on what model to get and also to save up some money first... haha...
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Hey thanks for posting that outstanding clip! I might be able to go a little faster than that in a rowboat, canoe or kayak for maybe a couple of miles. I do not think I could do that speed or go for more than 50 yards at full speed in a float tube or the zephyr, 100 yards in my 5'+ Discovery or 6' bucks pontoons which are about 15" to 12" diameter at their biggest point. Maybe I could match your speed and continue for half a mile at top speed in that Navigator- which I have said before has a great design. Look at your navigator oars and rowing position. You can really put some power behind that as Mojor will hopefully demonstrate in a future clip. My pontoons sit much lower in the water and oars and footbar are flimsy aluminum in comparison-which aren't meant to take that kind of power- but only to manuever. Sorry to report that aliens took my warp drive and the pictures of my rig last time I was out, but I stand behind what I write, not a what others write for me. Thanks again for you guys' generosity and contributions to this list. I continue to learn a lot. Maybe your assertion that "more is more" does apply in the case of rowing....

Cheers.

Pon


flygoddess wrote:
HUH?

Okay, I don't know if this works or not, but a small video of me casually rowing. This is in the Navigator. The BIG "V" pontube.
Center of the tube (my seat) I am sure is hitting the water on the row, but no effect.

http://s44.photobucket.com/...=1&os=1&ap=1


let me know if this works.
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Good man. Before I got my tube I was "thinking'' about
it for a long time. After I got it , I could not believe that
I did not get it long time ago.
Once you have it , I think it will make you happy.

Peter
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Yes the hobie does only go forward but with the new rudder it can damn near do a 360. On top of the you will always have a paddle straped to the side of the boat. The new hobie pro angler you can stand comfortably in it also. It is a very wide boat, actually i don't think they even classify it as a kayak cause of its width i dunno.

Up here in PA we don't really have any lakes that you need to backpack into, so that would not be an issue with me. As for transport i just just throw it on my roof, i never have anything up there anyway, why not use it lol.

Over all im still torn between the 2 of them. When it comes time i wish i could take both of them for a ride to see what i like better. No one around here has a an X5 and there is no dealers. There is a hobie dealer not far from me and i know they have demos so i know that wont be a problem.


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Cool. And don't get me wrong, they are neat boats. I fly fish and can't imagine a need to ever go forward, that is all.
I can see baitcasters needing it.



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flygoddess wrote:
Cool. And don't get me wrong, they are neat boats. I fly fish and can't imagine a need to ever go forward, that is all.
I can see baitcasters needing it.

Forward ??? who needs that ?

Peter
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see, Peter gets meLaughFish On



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I agree that for "fly fishing the water" moving bach and casting side or back is very effective.

But if you are planning on stalking visible trout which are cruising and picking midge pupae off the surface film, or stalking sedge feeding trout after dark ... then moving forwards and casting ahead is what is best.

Norm

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I'm new to the forum but have been poking around for a method to attatch oars to my FC4. I BELIEVE I can take the top 4 inches or so from a 5 gallon pail (this is slightly smaller than the tube on the FC4) and shove it over the end of the tube then air it up. I've tried it with a whole pail and it sure gets tight, no slip what so ever. Then I intend to glue black ABS plumbing pipe to the pail side at a 45% outward lean. This will raise and widen the pivot point of the oars. This will provide clearance over the side bags and increase leaverage to the oars. I've even found a threaded end cap that I beleive I can glue to the pail and will allow the pipes to be unscrewed. The only problem I'm having is designing the oar locks. What I'll probably use is an eye bolt big enough to slip the oar shaft through and bolt it loosley to the end of the ABS extensions.

Any thoughts?
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Re: [Turnkey] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Is glue going to be strong enough? There will be allot of torque on those extensions.

As far as oar holders, you might want a clamp because the oars will twist while rowing, But you are right in something loose in the extension for pivot.

http://www.grainger.com/...ems/1RVC5?Pid=search

But the oars need to move up and down plus side to side so some kind of swivel

http://www.ecplaza.net/.../6304141/swivel.html



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And Welcome Turnkey!



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The ABS part I intend to glue to the pail will be a threaded 3" end cap. If I grind off the tightening nut part of it and grind a trough accross the whole top that is the same cross section of the outside of the pail ( I eyeballed it and it should work) I will have about a 3" diameter solid connection to the pail. The pail is definately strong enough and I can also glue PLUS mechanically fasten the end cap to the pail with 4 small carriage head bolts, heads against the tube-should be smooth enough. The end result should be a very strongly mounted 3" diameter threaded plastic stud protruding from the pail around the tube. I then would thread on an ABS extension about 6" long.
I'm gonna do this once I get a couple of pails. Costs not including pails and the oar locks will be less than $10

It's a thought
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Re: [Turnkey] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Absolutely and cool idea. I am excited to see this one play out as I just got another H3 and I want to oar it. I agree with the carriage bolts... that is a good idea and the tube will just mold around them when inflated.

Stay in touch on this one!



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I agree with FG, this will be interesting to see when completed.

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Sorry for the size of the pics, tubing ain't the only new thing to meBlush. Two of the pics are what I did this evening, the pipe socket is bolted but not yet screwed to the pail top. Attatchment to the tube tip is very strong but the torque will be too much, the pail flexes more than I thought....BUT! I'm gonna place a T right at the pail connector and run a horizontal pipe back beside the bag and attatch it to the D loops. The pressure will be downwards towards the tube so not a lot of strength will be needed there but the torque will be distributed back along te length of the tube. This won't be as slick as I wanted but the horizontal tube wil be an excellent mounting place for a rod holder etc.

The third pic is me fishing the tail end of October at around 25 degrees. I live in Saskatchewan..at least there were no mosquitoes!!!
















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Re: [Turnkey] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
CoolGood concept. Pictures look like it MIGHT work. The real test (always) is how does it perform on the water. An FC4 is not as big and heavy as a pontoon, but the mounts you have would not handle too much weight...I don't believe.

However, it is obvious that you have put some thought into it and like the others I am anxious to hear how it works. But, if the first attempt is not stellar, keep working on it. There's gotta be a way. Right?
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I've been thinking recently about this idea again. I like the mounting idea with the "squeeze" mount, but it would definitely work better with a Fat Cat with the extra snout room.

I also have been pondering using Scotty float tube rod mount socketed saddles for oarlocks. I only have one though and would rather not buy a second...

Please keep the pics coming as you continue to develop this!

_SHig
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Re: [Turnkey] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
 I see problems with trying to put oars on a tube.
First of all, you have quite a bit of drag with a tube. It doesn't glide like a kickboat does.
Next, where are your feet going to be when you start to row? In a kickboat you have the foot pegs to place your feet. With your feet on the pegs, it helps in keeping your body where it belongs. In a float tube, you'll be hanging your legs in the water causing more drag. (Going back to the first problem)
How long are the oars going to be. In order to be more efficient, they have to be the right length.
I would also think that correct placement of the "oarlocks" in relation to where the angler is seated is a big consideration.
I think there are certain reasons that manufacturers haven't put oars or even made strap- on oar assemblies for tubes already. I would think it's been thought of many times buy just about every tube manufacturer out there and just isn't feasible or cost effective.
But if you can make it fly, go for it and good luck.
As for the Zephyr tube, China only? How big is it and is there U. S. dealers?
(This post was edited by mojorizing on Nov 14, 2009, 10:55 PM)
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Well ......Mojorizing.... you nay sayer!Tongue I got's it done!!! Oars on a FC4 (Deluxe no less) Only had it in the tub so far so I don't know how well it's going to paddle but my carpet trials seem just fine.....way better than my bum knee was doing. Check out the pics...(figured out how to smallify them since my last post)
To get my feets out of the way, and lessen drag, I can prop my legs up on the tips of the tube. The rowing position seems to be relatively ergonomic. The only issue I can see for comfort is the ribs on the pail ends are a little sharp on the back of my thighs but I figure I can tri them off withou sacrificing too much structural integrety. It's still 36 inches of ice time here in Saskatchewan but I hope to get it wet in April.
Taking into account material and my time at $5/hour I am willing to build a set of these wonderful oar locks for the paltry sum of $1000 per.......or contact me for more info and pics for free.



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More pics...damn computers.Crazy
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Pic #3 is the best full view....once again sorry for the oor computer skills. I'm a putterer not a propeller head.
Randall
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Re: [Turnkey] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
All I gotta say is WOW!!!!

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I don't know that I would have shared that much with everyone. Cool
Get some water time on this and patten it.

I want to hear all about the tubing season with this.

Still thinking, putting your legs up is not enough. If the weather is bad, you need to hunker down with the rowing. You will need something to support your feet or you will side out of the chair.
This from someone has has tried it....I didn't slide completely out but then I did have a bar for my feet after pushing my self back three times.



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For your legs you might try a strap of some sort. Just something to make you and the tube one, so you have something to push against as you row.

Great innovating! Something you might also consider to save your knee is a "tube tug" --- Small trolling motor in a separate tube to tow you where you want to go. Might give you more distance yet.

Good luck!
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I am thinking it will require a Bar. You kind of have to experience what is required. I got a good taste with my Navigator.

But where there is a will, there is a way.



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Well the ice finally melted off some of the golf course ponds in town and I got a chance to try my oar locks. The joys of living in Saskatchewan include ice for 6 months a year.

THEY WORKED GREAT! I had some problems because I couldn't raise one oar very well ( I had made the pivot point eyebolt/oarlock too tight) but overall I was very impressed. It was very windy when I tried this probably 25 mph but I was able to row into the wind at least twice as fast as I ever was able to kick the tube. There was no problem of feeling like I was falling off I don't think I'll need anything to stay on the tube. I'll get the oarlock fixed and post some more pics...but not for a few weeks. Me the missus and our two cats are heading down to Bryce this weekend for a vacation.
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Right on! Yeah Oars on a tube ROCK!
Pictures of Bryce pleaseWink



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I built a rig for my Super Fat Cat, got tired of fighting the wind, with my short legs, it works great.
Materials & info
1” Schedule 40 PVC Pipe {10’}
¾ “ “ “ “ “ ( 2’ + or - )
2 - ¾ “ T’s
2 – ¾ “ Caps
2 (or 4) – ¾ “ 90 degree Elbows ( I used 4 )

I cut the ¾ “ pipe into 2 -3”, and 10 – 1 ¾” and glued them to the T’s and Elbows.
You should end up with about ¾” of pipe sticking out of the fittings, this is the joiner for the 1” .
NOTE 1: the 3” piece is for the tie down strap, you may want to make it longer, depending on width you use.

NOTE 2: you will need to enlarge the inside diameter of the 1” to allow the 3*4 “ pipe to slide in. I used a rotary rasp in my drill, but you can also heat the ends with a heat gun and the force in a piece of the ¾” pipe.

Cut the 1” pieces to length ( I made each piece a little long, dry assembled , set on tube until I was satisfied ) and then glued it up.

The oar lock riser is just a little taller than the pockets on the tube. I used ¾” PVC sign board, cut out 4 plugs with 1 ¼ hole saw (inside diameter slightly over 1” ) glued 2 toghether a sanded down to fit inside 1”, glued and let dry, then enlarged hole to fit oar lock. The same thing could be done with ¾” hard wood ( I think I would use Epoxy ), or a 1” hard wood dowel and drilled in center and held in with a screw..

Straps – I used a ¾” strap (because I had them and they were the right lenth, with buckles and all). I used a single chain link shoved into a piece of plastic tubing, with a slot cut in it, to shove the strap through forming an eye, which goes around the pipe, as you tighten up on the strap, it also tightens up on the pipe and tube, seems to work pretty well. The tubing helps hold the eye in place and serves as a cushion between the chain and tube. There are other things that would work, but again I had these laying around from another project.

Oars – Coleman Boat Oars 3 piece 45” Length, These OARS are a little short, but work, I may extend the lengtht

NOTE 3: If you decide to be able to break it down, use a heat gun, on the 1” PVC, and insert ¾” at least 2” or longer into 1” pipe, DO NOT GLUE this joint. Drill and pin..
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Re: [WeeFolk] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Nice, clean, and simple design. It looks great. Is it only attached with the strap in the front?

Have you had a chance to test it out much? Does rowing lift you out of the seat? Do you have any kind of a foot strap?
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Cool, but I same questions as Cpierce. Also, most oar locks tilt out slightly...would this help on yours.
The problem I have on my Escape is the oar clipping the side bags. I will fix that by adding 2 more rings and sliding the bags back.



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WOW, just when I thought I had seen it all. Those strap on oars are sick. Bck in the day when our club started and way before anyone had a pntoon boat we where all in round tubes. It was always a race at some of the lakes we have tournaments at and I'll never forget the first time we blasted off and Jimmy Reese pulled out a set of ping pong paddles. He flew across the lake copared to us with just fins. The next event we all had ping pong paddles and some even modified them and added a larger paddle surface. But those strap on oars just blew me away when I saw that picture. Thanks for posting it.
Rich
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Re: [cpierce] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Yes and no, the first couple of outings was with just the straps, and worked fine, I found myself useing it to pick up and carry the tube. I added, velcro cable ties to the D rings, at the back storage pouches, to hold it in place and allow me to pick up the whole thing including oars.
No strap for my feet, I use them like rudders and for power.
I used it almost all of last season, not sure of how many outings.
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I haven't had any problems hitting the tubes or bags with the oars. I want make the oars longer to get more power.
You could tilt the risers out if you wanted, but I wanted it to be as compact as I could get it.
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Welcome to the forum, and very nicely done. Cool

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Hello there Alan - or anyone else out there! I appreciate this is an old post but wondered if you were able to help me. I live on the Isle of Skye, Scotland and got into float tubing last year. I have some severe left knee issues, which makes paddling for any period of time a real struggle so have been looking for an oar system to help out a bit.
I've downloaded the frame system that one of the other contributors posted but really liked the idea of these oar attachments from Zephyr. My question really is - 'has anyone actually managed to buy a pair of these yet?' I've been on their website but, as I don't speak Japanese, could't really make head or tail of it. I did send a message but may well have been doing anything really - I have no idea if they got it and haven't had a reply.
Float tubing for me is a revelation as it's so much easier than hobbling across bog and rough terrain. In essence, it's a lifeline for me and my fishing.
I'd be really interested in anyone's comments and experiences. Thanks so much for your help.
Richard - Skyepiker.
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Re: [Skyepiker] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Welcome to BFT. Here are some brainstorming ideas ....

Have you considered using a kayak paddle? Or even a sit on top kayak instead of a float tube?

You might also try using metal electrical conduit to fashion an oar frame. I think it would be good to add some kind of strap for your feet. A local fabrication shop might be able to make you something.

Many of us have put small electric motors and 12v batteries on our tubes. You can search for that on this forum.

It would be expensive to ship, but you could buy a tube that is already made for oars, such as the North Fork Outdoors Escape or their new ultra light version that is coming out soon. I think it is called a Predator.
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Thanks for getting back to me - much appreciated.
The item I was looking at is towards the bottom of the 2nd page of this thread - I've tried to attach the photo but keep getting bounced. I like the iea of its simplicity and lack of weight - the frame and motor ideas are great but I need to keep wieght to a minimum. The canoe paddle is probably the next best thing but I reckon is going to be a bit cumbersome and may well get in the way a bit. With funds being as they are, I'd really like to stick with the tube I've already got too, rather than having to spend on a complete new system.
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I am still not sure which you mean. The system that is shown on post #21?, or #32?, or #49?

What kind of float tube do you have? Any pictures? How much room is there on the front of the tubes?

What I was meaning by an frame of conduit.... Is conduit put together in a small square with a cross piece in the center that you could t out to be an oar lock. You could also mildly bend the conduit to curve a little, so it sits better on the tube. Straps would hold it on. About what is in post #21 on page 1, but done with pipe. You could make a mockup out of pvc first, but because of forces I would do the final in metal.
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And this from post #21 should be easy to fabricate up.


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Re: [cpierce] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Sorry, it was on page 1 - post 21. Living where I live, the potential to get items fabricated is quite dificult - not being lazy, really! The item made by Zephyr was such a simple piece of kit (as in post 21) I was hoping you'd all managed to buy them! My tube is a 'Vision, Keeper'. Great little tube, really lightweight but incredibly comfortable. I reckon there would easily be enough room for an oar system.
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Re: [Skyepiker] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Nice tube.

You should have room, but I don't know anywhere you can buy one.

If I was fabricating it at home, I would use a bottom plate of either aluminum or thick plastic. (A section or two of a 5 gal bucket might work.)

From the underside use pan head screws or carriage bolts with washers to affix two blocks of oak or thick nylon on the top. Coat or cover the screw heads to cut down on wear or abrasion to your tube. Some good epoxy might also be beneficial.

Counter-sink holes in the blocks to hold a small piece of pipe across between the blocks. That way the oar lock can adjust to the angle you need. If you want you could just mount it solid at a set angle. (Look at the picture I put in the last post.)

Drill through the center of the pipe (90degrees) and using nuts mount a piece of threaded rod on it.

The threaded rod can then go through the handle of your oars and be capped with a nut. Another nut and washer would probably be needed under the oar.

I would also probably use some plastic tubing to take up any slack or wear if needed.

Some people have even used ping pong paddles as small hand oars when their legs got tired or hurting.

Good luck whatever you decide to do. Keep us posted on your adventure.
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Think I may have sorted it! I've just been on Ebay and actually bought the oar locks and pads for a dinghy (Plastic pad with the cotton reel type fixing and a threaded spike sticking up for the oars) and 4 fabric, heavy duty tie down straps. I reckon if I cut slots in the plastic pad (I just hope there's enough room - fingers crossed!) I can attach via the straps - 2 per oar.
I'll send you a photo once it's done.
Total cost, about £35.00 including delivery. (About $50?)
Happy days - thanks for the help though, it gave me the prod to get something sorted. Much obliged.
Richard.
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Re: [Skyepiker] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
I was going to suggest "Glue On Oar Locks"

http://www.boatstogo.com/oar-locks.asp

Same ones used on inflatables these days. Use Locktite to glue them on. BUT, you will need some sort of foot brace. Or you will find it not very effective and you will be adjusting your seating a lot.
This can be done with a Nylon strap or something similar, but you really need this. Being able to get your feet/legs out of the water even better.

Also, you need some fabrication to the oars for this type of oar lock



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Re: [Skyepiker] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Good deal!! Is it something like this?


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Re: [cpierce] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Great minds think alike eh?
I use a nylon strap for my sonar. I tighten it with toon soft then inflate toon so there is a dent where the strap is, but when it is wet, it can stretch a little and it slides. That is a sonar, not an oar which has a lot of torque, so consider that.

By the way, what happened to Turnkey and WeeFolk. How are their inventions holding up?



(This post was edited by flygoddess on Feb 27, 2013, 11:39 AM)
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Re: [cpierce] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
That's exactly it! I reckon I can turn it into something almost exactly like the Zephyr item on post 21.
I'm hoping it will stay put but I take the point about the extra torque making it slip. May try sticking some rubber sheet to the underside of the plate first (I've got some 3mm thick insulating matting that should do the trick).
Thanks for all your comments on this issue - I'll definitely attach a photo once it's done.

Strange but I sent a query to the Secretary of the British Float Tube Association some time ago about exactly the same thing - I've still not even had a reply... So thank you for your help!Smile
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LOL

I was wondering on how the DIY ones did too.

Skyepiker, I should think it would work for you. A pad under might really help. Maybe even another strap that goes to a d-ring, so that it can only move around the tube so far.
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What type of Locktite, there are numerous types, Thanks for any help!
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Re: [BFVSFOREVER] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
I use this stuff:
http://www.amazon.com/...CKZC/ref=pd_sim_sg_2
But Ron who has posted on here in the past, has the same boat and informed me that Dave recommended Loctite, so that is what Ron used. I am assuming it was this one
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/...lexible-Adhesive.htm



(This post was edited by flygoddess on Mar 3, 2013, 12:09 PM)
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Re: [flygoddess] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
FG, I was reading the directions for the oar locks sold at that website and the stuff you use is what they recommend so that is what I will use. Saving my pennies for my oar upgrade, LOL Thanks for the help.
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Re: [BFVSFOREVER] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
I am on my third year with my glue ons so...good choiceSmile But the glue is only good for one year, so good idea to get all the items you want to glue on and do it all at the same time.



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Re: [Skyepiker] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Anybody try using a floating 2 blade kayak paddle? These would keep you from getting wet from drip ins....

http://www.amazon.com/...Guards/dp/B0028Q5G2Q

That would be a lot simpler, but maybe get too much zig-zag?

Pon
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The loctite glue I used is vinyl, fabric&plastic flexible adhesive. had it on about 1 year so far holding good.I got it at Home depot,
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Hello there. The bits and pieces arrived last week to convert my tube (dinghy oarlocks and tie-down straps) and Sunday, I set about putting everything together.
A mate of mine suggested gluing but I couldn't find the correct type of glue for the tube material - anyway, the space is a bit restricted to get a really good adhesion.
I actually had to unpick the stitching and remove velcro fasteners on each side but, as I'd never used them anyway, it wasn't a big deal.
I melted two slots in each side of the oarlocks so that the straps could be threaded through. This then passed around the tube while about 85% inflated and secured. I then inflated the final 15% and the grip is incredible - under hard rowing they could slip I suppose but I'm not intending to go out for speed rowing!
I did cut two pieces of dense rubber matting to fit underneath each oar lack to add a little grip and, ideally, there should be something more rigid glued to the bottom of each one as the PVC the locks are made of, is quite soft and tends to deflect. It's really just cosmetic though.
I'll post pictures the first time I use the new system!
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Re: [Skyepiker] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Sounds good. I additionally suggest that you add an adjustable strap to brace your feet against. Even with mild exertion rowing you will need the strap to counter your force.

Looking forward to the pictures.
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Re: [cpierce] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
A strap and a pipe for feet. The strap alone can get tangled up as it will be long because of the short tube.
Only other thing I can think of that you might encounter will be hitting your hands on the tube or side bags. The Escape is 6' long and I clipped the side bags bad. Could not get a good stroke because of how small it is and that again was probably at least a foot longer.



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Re: [Skyepiker] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
So how did the oars work out for you? Any pics of the finished product?

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Re: [albinotrout] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Wow... just realised it has been 8 years since I posted this thread! After many lost fights to get float tubing to be allowed in Singapore, I have finally bought my first float tube and have decided to bring it across the border to play in Malaysia.
I got my Caddies Premier at a great price with free shipping from the states just before Christmas (but only delivered 1 week ago)
Now, I am pending a few more items which will allow me to DIY oars onto my tube. And also add on some other necessities...
Can someone point me to some links that can get me started with DIY of rod holder, camera holders and whatnot?
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Take a look a time some of tubedude’s stuff to get an idea on how to rig your craft.

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Re: [albinotrout] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
albinotrout wrote:
Take a look a time some of tubedude’s stuff to get an idea on how to rig your craft.
thank you! will do that!
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Welcome back Alan. Glad you got a tube to work with. I checked out a pic of it and it looks like you have enough front deck in front of the pockets to install an oar lock setup.

My recommendation is to see what components are available and then work out a small wood or PVC square platform to strap down in that area to which you can fasten the oarlocks.

Let me know if you need any specific help in designing. Post a pic of the oar lock and fittings you get and I can better suggest a mounting.

Don't know what the freight would be but I have all the fittings for a Scadden oar lock that I took off my Escape. Cheap.

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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Caddis Inspire has oars, maybe will give you idea of where to place oar and footbar location.

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Re: [TubeDude] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Thank you tubedude. I’ve bought an oar lock. See pic... will this suffice?
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
That is the kind I have.

Now you need to figure a way to strap it down securely enough to row. And be sure to leave the tube partially deflated when you cinch down the straps. That way the final inflation will add to the tightness of the straps.

You might want to glue or screw your mounts onto a piece of wood or plexiglass...with the straps sandwiched in between...adjusting so that the fasteners on the straps are at a good spot.

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Re: [TubeDude] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Oh? I was still thinking about glueing it straight onto the tube. Haha. That won’t work? I have to strap it on?
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
From what I could tell by looking at the pic, you might be able to just glue them on. But not sure what the cover material is or how strong it might be against the strain of using the oars. With a strap-on mount you can make minor adjustments for position without having to fight an original (incorrect) glue mount. And the attachment would probably be stronger too if you used good strapping.

A big problem with gluing is finding the right adhesive that is strong and waterproof over time.

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Re: [TubeDude] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
I also bought these paddle holders.

Btw, what’s a good way to install a foot rest? Strap? Or a harder material?
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Re: [TubeDude] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
I see. Thank you. That made sense! What are the type of straps you guys are using? I will try to grab them off amazon if it’s available there.
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
After buying many float tubes, waders and other outdoor items I have a box full of various straps and fasteners. I might suggest something at least 1 to 1.5 inches...and 2 straps per oarlock for stability.

If you have a military surplus store anywhere nearby, that is a good place to look.

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Re: [TubeDude] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Is there a link somewhere for me to look at pics of how to install a foot rest? I have difficulty navigating in the forums.
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Alan_Ang wrote:
Is there a link somewhere for me to look at pics of how to install a foot rest? I have difficulty navigating in the forums.

Post #74 has attached pictures of a frame that could be adapted on the other end for a foot bar. Two pieces of PVC tubing would be bent into a curve to line up with the pontoon's shape for a drop down if desired. Adjustments would have to be made in order to go around your proposed oar locks.

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Re: [pontoonman] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
pontoonman wrote:
Alan_Ang wrote:
Is there a link somewhere for me to look at pics of how to install a foot rest? I have difficulty navigating in the forums.

Post #74 has attached pictures of a frame that could be adapted on the other end for a foot bar. Two pieces of PVC tubing would be bent into a curve to line up with the pontoon's shape for a drop down if desired. Adjustments would have to be made in order to go around your proposed oar locks.

PM

thank you. i will go take a look. :)
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Re: [pontoonman] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
pontoonman wrote:
Alan_Ang wrote:
Is there a link somewhere for me to look at pics of how to install a foot rest? I have difficulty navigating in the forums.

Post #74 has attached pictures of a frame that could be adapted on the other end for a foot bar. Two pieces of PVC tubing would be bent into a curve to line up with the pontoon's shape for a drop down if desired. Adjustments would have to be made in order to go around your proposed oar locks.

PM

hi pontoonman, do u know where i can install the foot rests?
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
The Caddis Inspire does not seem to have a foot bar or strap, probably means the oarrs are only meant for shallow water propulsion or for maneuvering.. I agree with post #64, thinking there won't be an increase of speed or range using oars with the tube sitting that low. Some of the pictures you posted for the Japanese boats show a foot strap , but your feet will be underwater, and it will not be solid enough to exert strong force Plus tangling may be an issue.
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Re: [pontoonman] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
For a solid foot bar, you will need to sew in d-rings at the 2 pontoon tips. Add two struts one to each side, which are fastened at the the D rings at the bags and at the tips. Fasten a crossbar between the two struts to rest your feet.
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Re: [peter805] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Oars are a big plus when rowing against the wind. And, I don't know if I am the only one, but a couple of times I have gotten hamstring cramps when using fins against the wind. That really complicates the finning.
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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
I know this is an older post, but these look awesome. Could you share the link where you found these? Would be nice to turn a float tube into a hybrid when necessary.
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Re: [FloatTubeFisher] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
A lot of the tubes out there have cloth covers, the glue on would be iffy. Not strong enough to hold it well. NFO and Outcast offer tubes with oars already but if you want to try your own, you could probably score all the parts here or other inflatable raft sites
https://www.inflatableboats.net/...R5hfIaQaAvYYEALw_wcB



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Re: [Alan_Ang] how to add oars to a float tube? In reply to
Hmm, this is a really old thread, but showed up at the top of the posts list - thought I'd add my 2 cents.

Here's my attempt to add oars to a Cumberland float tube. So far it's lasted about 3 years: https://www.floattubefishing.com/...to-your-float-tube/.