Fishing

Just got this in the mail last week...










My wife gave me a ultimatum, go fishing and she is gone. I'm sure gonna miss her.....


(just kidding dear)

I got the same thing.....

I got one also, funny thing is it doesn't mention what the $30 goes too.

Money to be used to address the aquatic invasive species threat.... to talk & think about it... lol Who knows where all the money goes... Someone must be short in their budget this year so this is one way of collecting some........








My wife gave me a ultimatum, go fishing and she is gone. I'm sure gonna miss her.....


(just kidding dear)

Exactly what I noticed too. It's a huge emergency and we must spend our money for a sticker but there's no mention of what that money will be spent on.

Interestingly, I had my boat in the water at FG Mother's Day and 2 days in a row after that and nobody asked me about where my boat had been or made me fill out their form. Not such a big emergency for the Utah water I guess. </snark>
NatefromOgden
Ogden Clear Headlights

So why do those of us who are non-residents have to pay $30.00 for the decal and residents only have to pay $10.00. Are we at greater risk ?? Wyoming residents don't fish out of state, therefore they will not bring the little buggers in with them ??? What gives ?? Just another way to get into our back pocket. Idaho is doing the same thing, stiff the non- resident. License fees I can see, but Mussel decals, that is a RIP OFF !!!

I may be wrong, but I was told the reason why out of state is more, is because the state is using some general funds also on these programs.
Since residents pay the general funds, it is all supposed to come out somewhat evenly. I doubt if that is always so, but that is the "political" reasoning that is supposedly behind things like out of state tuition, game fees and so on.

I don't have any actual numbers on that to back this up with, so take it for what it is worth -- not much!

Then again if we want to fish somewhere, do we pay or not?

How much is a night at the movies now? Do we pay or not.

Wish we had some guarantees on the money actually going to the program it is supposed to! Politicians of any species are questionable!

I think Utah needs to start doing the same thing, 5 bucks for us and 25 or 30 for non-residents. But wait, being the second dryest state we don't have any waters that non-residents would fish.


THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS IN PLACE IN CASE THE POLITICIANS IGNORE THE OTHERS.

So this brings up a Question! If you fish the Gorge and you launch in Lucerne and cross into WY do you need the sticker?? Cause I see no way your getting checked at the lucerne ramp by WY officials! Not bitchin just asking!!

My question is...if you have the STICKER on from Idaho, why do you need one for Wyoming? Aren't they suppose to be for the same prevention?

OH WAIT, just because you have a sticker, doesn't mean you can still transport.

Again....this is up to the idiot, or the responsible parties...

So, if UTAH does eventually go with this fee, will it change the way you boat?
Do the right thing, and you shouldn't need a stupid little sticker.




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As I understand it, yes you do. You are no longer in UT waters, all WY laws apply once you cross that line of bouy's. That is one reason it is marked so clearly instead of an imaginary line. You cross the line, you better have the sticker. I would not doubt one bit id WY F&G patrols the bouy line on FG this year. Some good bino's and flashing lights is all it takes.

Natefromogden,
What happened to you at FG is that you broke the law. Probably did not intend to but the law in UT is that YOU MUST certify your boat to be mussel free to launch. You do this by filling out either this form each day you launch.
http://wildlife.utah.gov/...PDF/self_certify.pdf
or by taking this on-line course and getting a certificate good until Dec. 31, 2010.

https://dwrapps.utah.gov/...n.jsp?examnbr=504688
I would do this right away so that you don't get a ticket anywhere else you launch in UT.
I do think UT needs a more pro active approach to this problem, invasive species are a huge PIA to clean up once they get started and with UT's reliance on water transfer and irrigation the mussels pose a threat that would cost millions a year to just keep in check.

I have the same question because the way I read the post card was that they are checking at the launch ramps.

RANT WARNING: sorry, but I need to get this off of my chest!

I got this postcard too, and man did it piss me off! I had planned to do a few trips into Wyoming this year, but not now. For some reason I find it hard to belive that once I pay $30 for this sticker that the mussels magically won't attach to my boat and be transported elsewhere. There should at least be some provision for anglers from another state (say Utah) that are fishing a lake that is in two states, like Flaming Gorge. What they have done with the fishing license is a good example..... $10 if you live in Utah and want to fish the Wyoming side. Thats reasonable. $30? Forget it! Yeah, I know $20 is not that big a deal, but its the point of it..... this is just another back door tax under the guise of "for the greater good". So great job Wyoming! Now I won't be fishing any lakes in your state, I won't be spending money on your motels, gas, food, ect, and guess what??? If I have mussels on my boat and put in at Lucerne to fish the Utah side, you're still going to get them on your side regardless if I've got the magic sticker or not Rant off. Fred K.

I got'er done. Thanks for the link.
NatefromOgden
Ogden Clear Headlights

No worries. I hope everyone takes the course, here are some good things to know.

If I were someone who goes to Lucerne much I would get the WY sticker. If you google the area on Lucerne, you can see that just to get onto the road you have to cross into WY. You come back out again if you go all the way to the marina, but if you go to the north at all or into the cove where lots of people camp, your back in WY.

I just wanted to clarify some things, if anglers plan on fishing the Gorge this year.

If you launch in Utah and boat into Wyoming, you need the decal on your boat. It's available on the WYGF website or at any WY license dealer. WYGF will be working the ramps and also patrolling by boat this upcoming season. Of course, if you launch in UT and go into WY, you will still need to display the UT Self-Certification form on your truck dash and boat. Someone already gave the link for the UT online annual certification and there are the forms at the launches also.

If you launch in WY you not only need the decal on the boat, but you also need to fill out their Self-Certification form, available at the launch ramps.

Utah's AIS program has been funded up to this point by the state legislature, that is why no fees have been required. Wyoming's AIS program was funded this year by their state legislature, but they were delegated to start the decal program to fund it in the future. The cost of these programs is exceptional when you consider all the signage, decontamination washers, man power, etc. that it takes to pull this off.

Both of these programs mirror those used in Minnesota. They have had mussels in their lakes and rivers for decades, but last I looked, had contained them to somewhere around 150 bodies of water. Impressive considering how much water they have. They have been successful with their program by educating boaters.

It could change in the future, but it could also be worse. Lake Powell currently has ramp hours which dictate when you can launch. When I was down there last month, you could only launch between 7AM and 6PM. The National Park Service has taken this threat very seriously.

Hope this helps some. I think everyone agrees we don't want these things in our lakes, and they would be an absolute nightmare for the Flaming Gorge fishery.

Ryno,thanks for clearing up some of the misconceptions about the sticker program. Weather you agree or not with the state of Wyoming's sticker program, that is your choice,but it is here to stay.If you don't want to fish Wyoming's water's then don't buy the sticker. Pretty simple solution .










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"If you take away the right to fail, you remove the ability to succeed."

i got the same card in the mail all i fish is the gorge i paid my 30 bucks and got it over with good thing i was up their over the weekend and got checked at buckboard 30 bucks is cheaper than the fine. the say the money goes to awareness and for the power washers and extra man power to watch the ramps so they say i agree it sucks but what do you do

It doesn't suck as much as infecting Boysen, Glendo, or Flaming Gorge with mussels. Three amazing fisheries.

I have heard a lot of complaints about this from out-of-staters. I follow 2 Wyoming fishing forums and both of them had heated discussions on this topic.

I am glad that my state is taking a proactive approach and making sure their efforts to protect and secure our waters is fully funded and operational. In reality you guys should be upset Utah isn't doing this.

It's easy to gripe about 30$ but the damage these things could do could be hundreds of thousands of dollars. In which case we'll all end up paying for it.

Too bad they (WY. Fish & Game) couldn't have done something about the bourbot situation before they infiltrated the Gorge. They could have charged us non-residents 20 or 30 bucks for a "Bourbot Bashing Badge".

Just my 30 bucks worth


THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS IN PLACE IN CASE THE POLITICIANS IGNORE THE OTHERS.

I agree, UT should do something more.

I suggest that UT residents pay nothing and continue exactly as we are with our certificate program. I further suggest that all out of state boats have to pay $50 to launch at either Bear lake, Powell or FG. All other lakes would cost $30. If your just passing through but don't intend to launch the fee should be only $10.
I think the RAC is taking suggestions this week too.

So, you are saying that a FEE and a STICKER is the cure? This can not possibly be accomplished through educating and NO EXTRA FEE?

Wyoming & Idaho are charging Utahns almost $100. for a license, where Locals are paying $24.!? Why so much for out of state? Where is that almost $75. going? What are we getting out of this?




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In ID your getting access to the high water mark of streams and rivers.
In WY, you get nothing, and like it.

I've allready taken and submitted the survey, hopefully enough concerned people in Utah will complete the survey of proposed new fishing laws for 2011 with personal comments and suggestions, and Fish & Game will take these into account.


THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS IN PLACE IN CASE THE POLITICIANS IGNORE THE OTHERS.

SO WHERE DO THEY SELL THE STICKERS.? I NEED 1. THANX.
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here is a list of where to buy the stickers ,in unita and sweetwater counties.


GREEN RIVER SWEETWATER HARDWARE 400 UINTA DR 307&#8208;875&#8208;1520
GREEN RIVER PAYLESS LIQUOR & SPORTING GOODS 50 E. FLAMING GORGE WAY 307&#8208;875&#8208;2439
GREEN RIVER GREEN RIVER REGIONAL OFFICE 351 ASTLE AVE. 307&#8208;875&#8208;322

EVANSTON RIP'S GROCERY 98 COUNTY ROAD 307&#8208;789&#8208;3854
EVANSTON UINTA SPORTING GOODS & PAWN 120 FRONT STREET 307&#8208;789&#8208;0515
EVANSTON WAL&#8208;MART #1456 125 N SECOND STREET 307&#8208;789&#8208;0010
EVANSTON SPORTSWORLD 524 FRONT STREET 307&#8208;789&#8208;6788

MOUNTAIN VIEW BENEDICT TRADING CO. 950 N. HWY 414 307&#8208;782&#8208;3581










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"If you take away the right to fail, you remove the ability to succeed."

I had a tag on my windshield in the lucerne parking lot in february from the Utah DWR about the mussels, but I couldn't find any info on their website. There were only 4 boats on the lake that saturday, and we all got ticketed by Utah. The $10/$30 difference is nothing new, non-residents always pay more than residents for privileges anywhere. I stopped buying non-res utah fishing license when they hit $70 even though I am only 15 minutes drive from utah lakes. I would like to see a regional tag for mussel prevention that would do something to eliminate the threat in the western states, but the fact is the gorge will probably get the mussels sooner or later. Electric lake and red fleet have them, what is UDWR doing to get rid of them there? Flaming Gorge is one of the best fisheries in the US, and sees boats from all over the country and Canada every week. The only hope I see in avoiding it is to post enough signs and have enough people involved that it stops an angler and makes him think about where his boat has been before launching if he is from out of the area.
I guess the real question for us all is not the fact that wyoming has the fee, but why doesn't Utah?

Click on the second pic and read the last couple of lines.








My wife gave me a ultimatum, go fishing and she is gone. I'm sure gonna miss her.....


(just kidding dear)

That's the problem with mussels, you can't get rid of them. That's why it's so important to keep them out.

There is now mandatory washes at Red Fleet. A technician is on-site from the time boats arrive, until the time they leave, so they can decontaminate all boats. Fortunately, no adults have been found in the reservoir yet, only veligers (larval form) back in 2008.

UT doesn't charge a fee, because it's currently funded by the UT State legislature. That could change though. WY is charging a fee, because their legislature will not pay for their AIS program after this first year. The money from the decals will be their budget for AIS prevention in the future.

Hope that helps some.

go to wyoming game and fish you will need your boat number

I would almost bet that if Utah does the sticker program, there will be no change in how they stop IN. SP. from entering Utah waters. They'll take the money and run!

thanx!!! i printed that!!!
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It is NOT a question of "if" mussels will enter western waters; it is a question of "when." No amount of education or fee charging is going to change that in ANY western state. Prevention is NOT possible. It WILL happen.

The only thing that can be done is "control", and that is very weak at the present time. Decontamination of ALL watercraft as they are removed from ANY body of water is a start. Trying to educate everybody that uses a water craft on any body of water is never going to happen. There will always be some that don't get the word and some that will not abide by the word.

Decontamination should cost everybody the same amount or the same rate per inch or foot regardless of where they live. Every state on every body of water that is open to watercraft of any kind should be decontaminating all watercraft. Keep in mind that this will NOT prevent the avian population from redistributing the mussel scourge in their travels about the country.

There is no real reason to be bent out of shape just because Wyoming sees fit to charge more for the non-resident sticker. All states charge higher fees to non-residents for almost every single permit/license they sell. There are a few exceptions like the Flaming Gorge permit allowing Wyoming or Utah residents to fish the other states waters for the same fee. It's a fact of life. Get over it.


Bob Hicks, from Utah
I'm 70 years young and going as hard as I can for as long as I can.
“Free men don't ask permission to bear arms.” - Glen Aldrich
“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don’t mind.” - Dr. Seuss

You are right on the higher for out of staters always being there, but there is many issues that HAVEN'T always been there.
All these new fees and I am not talking a dollar here and a dollar there.
Get use to it? Not hardly.
Will I go to Wyoming? Nope., but I am just one.




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one down lot's more to go lol

They'll get my $30...IF I can ever find a whole weekend to get to the gorge. Heck the fee could be $100 for out of staters and I would still pay.....I would complain, but in the end I would pay and the only Wyoming water I fish if the gorge!



Give a man a fish and you can feed him for a day, teach him to fish and you will never see him again.

Careful what you wish for. They don't get OUR money, who do you think they will hit




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Ryno so are these form's going to be availible at the wyoming ramp's?becouse so far this yr they havent been there.

If they are going to charge that much they should be inspecting like powell is doing. Turnabout is fair play, UT should hit out of staters 30 bucks as well. It's not WY vs UT, far more out of staters come to the Gorge. I don't want to pay 30 bucks but if it were actually doing something to prevent this muscle from getting into the Gorge I'd gladly pay that. Truthfully UT and WY should wave the out of state fees for each other and add to other states. The resevoir is in both states after all.

that's the thing only a few of you will stop fishing wyoming a handfull wont make the difference.if or when utah does it guess what I will pay what ever the price is and keep smileing the whole way to the lake. and I only fish utah 2month's out of a yr but it would be a price I would have to pay to play.

I guess most of the DH's in WY. must live around the Gorge as I haven't ran into this type of attitude toward non-residents any where else in the state. I still haven't got any response on the bourbot situation in the Gorge I believe they came from (YOUR) side of the pond.


THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS IN PLACE IN CASE THE POLITICIANS IGNORE THE OTHERS.

fishley is right. only a few will not fish becaulse of this new fee. i will pay to play. i love the wyo sides giant kokes... and i love swim. utah will fallow sooner than we all think. utah is a money grabbing sob. higher taxes and lesser wages. we as utahns just take it. so keep grabbing for moore from us. so it is comming get ready.
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Last I heard, they were trying to get everything organized and in the field by Memorial Day weekend at the latest. I've talked to some people that have already bought the decals, both on the WYGF website and at license vendors, so that portion of the program is up and running.

yes they did come from wyoming and yes they are going down lake in to utah . so what have you done to help the burbot problem how many cold night's have you spent out there helping the problem.as far as the attitude it's only to whinney nonresidents that fell like they are geting screwed to fish some amazing water's.wa wa wa I would pay what ever fee to fish period.even if it mean's I got to give utah a little more than I allready do . you ever hear the saying welcome to wyoming we dont care how you do it in utahwell welcome to wyoming DH..........

One of these days we are going to meet my friend.


THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS IN PLACE IN CASE THE POLITICIANS IGNORE THE OTHERS.

LMAO CANT WAIT!BUT YOU MAY HAVE TO SPEND 30$!

 it's only to whinney nonresidents that fell like they are geting screwed to fish some amazing water's.wa wa wa[b/]

So who is "whinney"? Isn't that what horses do.
Do Wyoming people know how to WHINNEY better?



Now WHINING on the other hand...well didn't read any of that here either.




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I have allready spent my $30, that's chicken feed compared to what I spend in WY. hunting every year.


THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS IN PLACE IN CASE THE POLITICIANS IGNORE THE OTHERS.

oh man you got me I cant spell lmao yep wyomings going to whinney all the way to the bank lol or so you all think.for every one of you that WHINE about the fee and wont pay it 10 from col and 10 from cailf will take your place so ya wyo sure did screw up lol. you watch when utah does it wont bother me a bit............oh and thank you for the spelling lesson could you now edit my other 900+post so I can look as educated as your self ther mam

Nice come back.




Some things are better left alone, Even though, some feel they know better.
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Now your batting .500.
Another couple years in 4th grade, you'll be up there with the rest of the kids.

well if you allready got the decal I dont understand what the point of pissin and moanin will do? wont get your 30 back. and we dont even want to go in to what wyoming people beside's outfitters and ranchers that charge a fee think of a nonresident paying a higher price to draw every yr lol you should be so lucky to hunt in wyo.just look at it like this your helping a college kid buy beer after he has worked a long hard day looking at boat's all day or maybe a book or two for school

501 cant you count?lol I may cry my self to sleep over this grammer and spelling problem or maybe not

not everyone can spell i cant for the most part. wana badger me about it? i could care less. lol its just internet bs. some of us played alot of hooky and went fishin with our dads almost every day. if it cost us some grammer owell. look at ashes boy. 4 yrs old and i bet he has boated moore fish over 20 pounds then 80 % of the users on this board. show them braiden at school ash...
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Deleted . lol ken I could give to cents about what people think about my spelling and grammer if I did I wouldnt post crap. funny how no one correct's you when your giveing out info but when you arent it's a differnt story lol. I payed my fee and fill out utah's form every day so all I can do is go Fish and listen to my hooked on phonics tape's

smart azz lmao.
fishing for a deal on a new car or truck I can hook you up. fishing is life everything else is just details.

got mine in the mail and its joke.
I went to the gorge this week and I did not even go to the wy. side no thanks I can do all the fishing on the utah side.
This week alone they missed out on two sales my fishing tag and there evasive tag...
I do pay a Idaho evasive tag .. But Idaho has better fishing.
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If your practicing CNR keep your freaking hands out of the gills..

I wasn't complaining about the fee, I paid that a while ago, I think you just want to beat a dead horse, as far as fishing bourbot in WY. I fish them way up stream from the Gorge. If you think fishing for them in the Gorge is going to rid the lake of them, that's like sticking your fist in a bucket of water and pulling it out to see how much of an impression you have left. I think there is much more to worry about in the world today than a $30.00 sticker. We enjoy our combined deer, pheasant & waterfowl hunts in WY.every year. We don't pay for any of those hunts other than the price of the tags, permits and conservation stamps, all of those hunts are on friend's properties. As far as living in WY. I wouldn't mind it a bit, I'm actually hoping I get selected for an upcoming transfer to Cheyenne.


THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS IN PLACE IN CASE THE POLITICIANS IGNORE THE OTHERS.

Absolutely Warchild, see you up there.




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Look for me too. I'll be the guy in the 9'11" inflatable pontoon!
"Sticker? I don't need no stinkin sticker"

Just don't put a motor on




Some things are better left alone, Even though, some feel they know better.
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I guess the real question for us all is not the fact that wyoming has the fee, but why doesn't Utah?



The fee is for steam cleaners and the 16 year old running it, right?
Everyone seems to think Utah isn't doing anything because we don't have that extra fee.
Utah, (with our huge population) from what I understand, it comes from a general fund. It is there, it is just not singled out.

Go to this site and take the test, that will make more difference than a sticker. EDUCATION is what needs to be enforced.

http://wildlife.utah.gov/...els/form_options.php




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I THINK WE WILL ALL BE PAYING A FEE OR HIGHER LICEAINCES PRICES OR MORE TO LAUNCH OUR BOATS HERE IN UTAH SOON. IF IT HELPS KEEP THOSE MUSSELS OUT I WILL PAY IT AND HAVE THEM WASH MY BOAT EVERY TIME I LEAVE THE WATER TO GET MY MONEY WORTH. I HEARD THAT PINEVIEW RAISED THEIR LAUNCH RATES FROM 10 TO 13 BUCKS THIS YEAR NOT SURE HAVENT BEEN UP YET THIS YEAR MAYBE WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY I HOPE. BE PREPARED TO PAY MORE FOR FISHING IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.

Unfortunatley, some $ could be going to the launch and NOT the species.

I never understood how certain sections of Strawberry could charge, when it is BLM land.

But I agree, any $ that goes to the cause, is okay with me.




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You heard wrong. The fees are the same as last year.


Bob Hicks, from Utah
I'm 70 years young and going as hard as I can for as long as I can.
“Free men don't ask permission to bear arms.” - Glen Aldrich
“Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don’t mind.” - Dr. Seuss

See, that's what chaps me off about this. If I bring my Kayak, my wifes Kayak and my sons Kayak, it will cost me $90. Not $30, $90. So we can go for a paddle. Pay 3 times because I have small vessels that only support 1 person each. Not many places for viligars to hide in a kayak.

Will water weenies over 10' have to have a seperate sticker from the tow boat?

As to the out of state fee difference, I wonder how long it will be before state parks start this. $10 to get in for residents, $20 for non residents. Camping for residents will be $20 a night and $30 for non residents.

I hear you. My hubby and I both have 10'6" pontoons and both with motors.

Does everyone realize, there is an excise tax on you rod or pole? That is one place this money comes from instead of stickers here in Utah.




Some things are better left alone, Even though, some feel they know better.
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Would you care to offer any evidence that money that is collected from the Pittman Robertson Act goes directly towards Invasive Species prevention and/or education in Utah?

The Utah Division of Wildlife themselves said that the funding for Invasive Species would come from the Tax Payers of Utah via the General Fund of the State.

http://trib.com/...a9-fdb500f10507.html

Wyoming IS NOT like Utah, thank god, and our Game and Fish's budget DOES NOT come from our state's General Fund. They are required by STATE LAW to be self sufficient via license sales etc. The state legislature may give one time funding allowances (like they did this year to start the AIS program) but by law they CAN NOT continue this type of funding.

Here is an interesting report from the Wyoming Game and Fish.

http://gf.state.wy.us/...nualReport_final.pdf

For those who don't think we should be paying for AIS management, and since the state legislature is requiring the G&F to manage for AIS, where would you like to see budget cuts to pay for the estimated cost of $1.5 million annually? Where would Non-Residents like to see cuts so their license fees could be kept lower?

Remember one thing, EVERY single penny you pay for fees and licenses in Wyoming goes DIRECTLY to the management of our wildlife. Wyoming is not like Utah where the revenue from license sales goes into the state's general fund to be managed by Utah's legislature.

FYI, Here is a rough summary/estimate of the revenue sources of the Game and Fish.

78% License sales, Conservation Stamp sales, Preference Points, Application fees, Boater Registration, Access Yes, etc.
12% Federal Aid from the Pittman Robertson Act
5% Investment and Interest
2% Funding allocated by the Wyoming Legislature (This money was specifically allocated to the management of Wolves, Grizz, and Sage Grouse.)
1% Non Fed Grants (These expenditures are well documented in the annual reports. Brucellosis is not one of them)
1% Publication Sales
1% Other

Wyobraz

"A government big enough to supply everything you need, is big enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson

It's actually cheaper for kayaks. Here's text copied from the WYGF website......

Costs for the decal under the emergency regulations are $10 for motorized watercraft registered in Wyoming, $30 for motorized watercraft registered in other states, $5 for non-motorized watercraft owned by Wyoming residents and $15 for non-motorized watercraft owned by non-residents. Inflatables 10 feet or less in length are exempt.

Actually hunting and fishing license sales in Utah are considered restricted funds also, the same as WYGF. This means license sales go directly to UDWR for management of the resources. UDWR has more of a contribution from the general fund than WY, about 10%, but the bulk of their budget is from restricted and federal funds.

Here's link to their funding overview:

http://wildlife.utah.gov/...ancial-overview.html

Thanks Ryan.

But according to Larry Dalton from the Utah Division of Wildlife the Aquatic Invasive Species program is provided funding from the state's General Fund. Is this not true.



http://trib.com/...a9-fdb500f10507.html

Wyobraz

"A government big enough to supply everything you need, is big enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson

Ryan,

One last question for you. Would address the issue of spreading AIS via water fowl etc. I have heard that claim several times on BFT, and I am curious about Utah's take on this.

Wyoming, along with Kansas, Colorado, and Michigan all have stated that AIS can not be spread via waterfowl. They claim that the only possible way would be for them to spread larva and once they leave the water and dry out while flying the larva then dies and will not contaminate another body of water.

What is your opinion?

Wyobraz

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Just saw this on the news tonight. Adult quaggas are now found in sand hollow reservoir

That's correct. The UT AIS program is currently funded through general funds appropriated by the State Legislature. They've done this the last two years. It could change in the future, but like Larry stated, so far the state has made it an "all-Utah" problem.

I suspect it's possible for mussels to be moved via natural means (waterbirds), just highly unlikely. The rapid expansion we're seeing across the country is more likely from boats, trailers, water development, etc. When you look at the map of current mussel distribution, there are many uninfected waters surrounded by infected waters. Even when I visit my family in Michigan, there is one lake with mussels and you can drive a 1/2-mile to another lake without. If natural means were even minimally successful, I think you would see more of these regional areas/waters being infected. Mussels have pretty general water quality requirments, so that's not much of an issue either.

That's just my opinion, but I hesitate to say something is biologically impossible. Hope that helps some.

Thanks, Ryno. That makes me feel better. At least I get 1/2 off for not having a motor.
It would be nice if Electric motors were exempt too, as they have no cooling system for the things to hide out in.
Still require the decontamination, but let electric motored craft pay the lower price. Only because they are less likely to be spreaders and the cost of the 140 degree pressure wash would be much less than the decon of a 23' powerboat.

Wyobraz,

Here is an excerpt from the 2010 Utah Aquatic Invasive Species Management Plan which can be found at this link. Please note the bolded text. While this is not the most productive method of transporting mussels, it is possible that waterfowl and shore birds can and most likely do transport them.

As I said before, total elimination is not going to be possible with current technology. The best we can hope for is control.

Quote:

Pathways of Introduction: The rapid invasion of North America and recent expansion of Dreissenids into the west has been exponential due to their ability to disperse at all different stages of life. Dreissenid mussels disperse in many different ways. The first way they move is naturally, being carried passively as planktonic larvae (veligers) in flowing or wind-driven (wave) water currents and by attaching themselves to other organisms such as crayfish or turtles. They may also attach to legs, feet, and feathers of waterfowl and shore birds, but transport on animals is only a low-level vector (Carlton and Johnson 1993). Dreissenid mussels are most typically transported by humans within vehicles or vessels capable of storing and moving water. Recreational boating and the ability to move boats and other equipment long distances in short periods of time is the primary vector and has increased the potential spread of these mussels. All life forms of Dreissenid mussels can be transported in many ways including the following: ballast systems, live wells, bait wells, bilge tanks, ski storage areas, cooling systems, and basically anywhere water can be stored on a boat. Adult Dreissenid mussels are more likely to attach themselves to boats and equipment and can survive several days out of the water. Some adults have been known to survive up to 27 days in the right conditions of cool temperatures and high humidity. Their veligers are more susceptible to dying in hot, dry Appendix A- 38 conditions (McMahon and Ussery 1995). All human forms of introduction can be prevented if the proper precautions and decontamination procedures are followed.

Bob Hicks, from Utah
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