That's absolutely ridiculous. "The only disrespect I have on here is for your demeanor, attitude, and brash insistence that your point of view, and only your point of view, is valid".
My demeanor was professional up until my last post. As you later would go on to say "there are other, valid viewpoints that exist out there, even if you disagree with the premise of them".
You weren't disrespectful towards me and democrats/liberals because of our demeanor. You were disrespectful since the beginning and not just the last post like me because you are a complete hypocrite of what you just said above. I am open to other people's viewpoints and listen to them. It doesn't mean I'm going to believe them or agree with them but I give everyone a chance to speak. I spoke first and you nor anybody had to say anything let alone say things in a manner that lead to a debate. "They, unlike you, are willing and able to accept that my facts are valid but disagree they are right for society as a whole."
After I spoke, you chimed in and whether intentional or not, you mislead some people. This absolute biggest lie is your tried putting words in my mouth...I never said the sky was falling. You had what you would call a temper tantrum and put words in my mouth. Secondly, you tried citing the number of retailers as the number of sponsors in an effort to make the significance of 5 retailers dropping out less. Third, you tried to bring 2016 outdoor shows into the equation when A) there was more sponsors that year because they are different year to year and B) Outdoor retailers weren't talking about not coming to the Utah show in 2016. Fourth, you tried to underestimate the number of retailers that would be lost by those 5 groups dropped out; when we used the numbers YOU provided, the average number of retailers per sponsor turned out to be close to 100. when you multiply that 100*5, that = 500...a lot more than your original claim of 50. Fifth, you literally were saying you didn't believe stuff that me and sinergy were telling you that literally came from a land transfer analysis report....you're being like the type of person that would say you don't believe smoking cigarettes causes cancer or something J/A like some people can smoke and not get cancer.
You were the one not accepting facts, not me. I probably wouldn't agree with your or some other people's philosophy for what you "disagree is right for society as a whole". In this case, I wouldn't have agreed with your perspective which i'm assuming is something along the lines of that these outdoor retailers threw a hissy fit and shouldn't have announced they were going to withdraw from the show. So, I actually agree with your quote of "facts are valid but disagree they are right for society as a whole"
. I have more of a problem with you trying to argue against the facts in the 5 main points I addressed above than your presumed interpretation of the way the five outdoor retailer groups handled the situation. I don't feel like you did the first half of your quote of "being willing and able to accept that my facts are valid but disagree they are right for society as a whole".
About the Obama situation....this years election compared to 08 and 12 is an apples to oranges comparison. It's not justifying their actions by any means, but protester's aren't mad that a republican won...they are mad because Donald Trump won. It wasn't like it is today back when George Bush won before Obama took office either. Anyways, here is a video of people burning a flag as a Obama/Clinton protest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh5tsfJnYj4
Trust me...you can find more while Clinton was running or before Obama started both of his terms if you look hard enough. Anyway, like I said before the actions of some of these protests are inexcusable and I'm not justifying their actions but the people aren't mad a republican won...they're mad Donald Trump won; this is an apples to oranges situation with Obama.
To be honest this thread was meant to be more like a current event and not meant to turn into a debate. I'll probably comment if I see a fishing post/story that I like of your's Dubob. But I'm not going to be spending this much time on the internet arguing anymore.