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17-18 season forecast
What are your predictions/reports about your local ice?
NOAA throws La Nina into the mix but the cooler temps are pretty limited to the great lakes area and northern rockies.
Farmers almanac throws the solar factors into theirs saying its likely to be cooler.
I'm experiencing erratic weather, warmer and windier than it should be, it seems, more precipitation too. Both maps make me feel very uncertain but I'm optimistic about a decent season. Guessing around the new year my spots could be good to go but I fear unpredictable weather could make it or break it. Heard a few high altitude spots are being fished near by at least.

https://www.almanac.com/...r-forecast-2017-2018
https://www.climate.gov/...-2018-winter-outlook
(This post was edited by willami on Nov 22, 2017, 12:41 AM)
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Welcome to the site Will, have you ever fished lake Boyd, a little North of you?
The forecast I have read call for a wetter than normal Winter but also warmer than normal. Hard to believe we won't see ice sooner or later, just not sure how long it will last, if those predictions are true.
https://www.npr.org/...ajority-of-u-s?sc=tw


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(This post was edited by wiperhunter2 on Nov 22, 2017, 6:10 PM)
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Thank You.
Definitely fished boyd once or twice. Not much during summer, mostly spring and winter.
I did go yesterday and wanted to today but ended up somewhere else due to blocked roads. Trying to squeeze a couple fish out there while we're in this "Native American" summer.
Like you said it could be a short window , got to get it while the getting is safe.
Hope to see you out there sometime!
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Here are addresses to analyses of the last two Novembers snow cover.
Nosnowber about sums up the last two years.


https://weather.com/...-early-november-2016
(last Nov. snowfall)

https://weather.com/...vember-us-snow-cover
(This November)

It isn't really directly linked to ice but as we all know snow and ice can be friends or enemies from one day to the next.
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Checking out some more forecasts and I'm getting a feel for how the local ice season could go and a rough idea for the national outlook. I'm guessing January 10th will be the earliest safe ice on ponds, add a week for small lakes and two for big lakes. (just for me)
Warmer for just about everybody including alaska and cold for some of the northeast.
The sustained cold we need isn't in the predictions but reality isn't predictable. We might not have ice everywhere but unfreezing the winter economy might not be so bad for the fiscal year.
Paying to ride in a pickup bed to the high country doesn't sound bad either..
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We got a report of a lake that's up in the mountains, about an hour away, having ice. Going to give it a try in the morning and hope we can get to it. Got some snow over the weekend and I'm not sure if we can even get to it now but we will give it a try. After the snow it started getting cold here, with day time temps only getting into the 30's, for at least the next week or more and that's in the valley, up in the mountains, it is likely staying below freezing. Our elevation here in the Valley is around 4,400 ft, what is the elevation where you are?


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About 5000 feet plus/minus.
Actually got onto ice today! About a 1/2 inch, didn't fish but I sighted a few dozen chubs in the shallow water ( 1/2-1 inch depth ) . Didn't dare set my trap because I could have went through up to 1 &1/2 feet of water.
Happy just to see skim ice cover on tiny ponds and the ditches are taking in the shade. The wind and warm forecast might erase that soon.

Hope you get some action! I'm planning to fish to the high country once or twice. The north I-25 corridor is expected to warm up again but I have no idea about the mountains.
(This post was edited by willami on Dec 6, 2017, 3:33 PM)
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Not sure what the elevation was where we fished today but I'm sure it was at least 7,500ft, the ice was around a foot thick and it was 2 degrees when we arrived. Glad you found some ice, too bad it wasn't a bit thicker.


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Sounds good to me, hope there was some water and fish below the ice.
I actually ice fished for the first time today, broke through a few times but I caught about 30 fish. Loosely speaking but I'm counting it as my early season.
Open water fishing was better than expected but the fish were biting strangely.
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LOL, yea, it was plenty deep, I'll attach a couple of pics of the fish we iced.


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""LOL, yea, it was plenty deep, I'll attach a couple of pics of the fish we iced." Nice looking fish! Thought I wrote that already but probably messed it up or put it somewhere random"
The new list of names has been formed for 2017-18 winter storms.
Looks like a list of employees and patrons of a dallas strip club to me. Maybe we can petition to stop the weather channel from controlling it , then they can focus on accurate forecasting for once.
At least something more scientific or sensible and not made for TV , soon it'll be just another advertising tool ( winter storm goodwrench kills 20 ).
Anyway it doesn't really do any good for the reputation of those names but it does give you something to curse while you shovel snow.
I'm guessing the next to hit me will be g or h, on the 22nd, 3-6 inches.
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(This post was edited by willami on Dec 15, 2017, 6:12 AM)
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Looks like we will finally get winter conditions here in western Colorado later this week. Fished up on the Grand Mesa on Friday, hit 3 different lakes and at 10,000 ft there is still 0-2 inches of snow depending on sun exposure, virtually no snowpack. All good though, the dirt roads were still clear of snow and we were able to drive to lakes in December that I thought I would never be able to ice fish.

That being said, with the warm fall, I am guessing it won't be a good ice year in our area.



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Nice, expect for the snow pack. Haven't checked but hopefully the mountains are getting more.
The season has been challenging so far, like hannibal's elephants ; not good for anyone in particular and generally dreadful. Still, you can't help but focus on them.
(This post was edited by willami on Jan 10, 2018, 9:28 PM)
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The ice season is into its latter days around me. If in a video game I passed level 3 with a low score, one quarter and two dimes left ;can't remember much about level 4 but I didn't get half way to the boss.
If I compared all my seasons to military history I could have started my first months in the alps around 1915, advancing onto the thin ice of Ladogoa to enter thinner ice on Changjin. Then possibly, on a sort of never ending cold lake without bearings.
Detesting any conflicts that advance through the computer age resets my thinking into foggy times where bears and mammoths were known as competition/ large game but the enemy was a sister species without advantages.
The trouble is the loosing side is the default setting when you go too far back into centuries full of untold conflicts, with a definite ending.
(This post was edited by willami on Jan 12, 2018, 7:31 PM)
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What does Bill Cosby, Bill Clinton and Yakov Smirnoff have in common with my Ice Fishing season?
They're not "ha, ha" funny. Thats not a joke or it'd be in that section.
(This post was edited by willami on Jan 26, 2018, 9:49 PM)
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Number 18 should be considered late season for sure now. With luck my specific ice should be bolstered and preserved enough to withstand a few warm periods and stay rot free due to snow cover and mild weather. Getting slow and low but the rewards get greater when the going gets tough ;
fishing for me is like surrealism on quaaludes mixed with sadism.

Tips for the rest of the season:

-Focus on the little things.
-Don't forget your sunglasses
-Agree to disagree
-Don't walk on rotted and or candled ice.
-Do NOT show russian leaders your jewelry
-If you think you will or will not succeed, you're wrong.
(This post was edited by willami on Feb 2, 2018, 3:59 PM)
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Didn't know weather could go from a calm 48 degrees at 1 AM to rain, fog, rain, sleet and snow with a hard east wind tapering down to 24 degrees. Maybe in terms of possibility but not when the forecast looks nearly calm with slowly degrading temperatures..
Darn you La Nina and or weather.com
Its like the saying 'everybody complains about the weather channel but no one does anything to them'.

If I leaned anything about night fishing this morning its never try anything.
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If anything was gained from this season it was the adoption or adaptation of two new terms in my ice fishing lingo.
I've been humpin' it every trip, meaning I carry my stuff like a camel, unlike the sled dogs.
The pros and cons are easy enough to imagine for both methods but I need light sled design that can be broken down and carried easily, to become a Leg Humpin' Sled Dog..
(This post was edited by willami on Feb 13, 2018, 3:59 AM)
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My season is over, worst of times, the lest of times.
Submit and humiliate ; can't best them and won't join them.

Last trip was just, in the sense of humility alone ; learned and ignored, won but failed to the point of acceptable- fatalistic, demise.
Decimated then obliterated, more reborn than water boarded; baptized by the ignorant and ignored by cause and effect.


Long story short, be careful out there. Lost on ice but won on shore.
(This post was edited by willami on Feb 16, 2018, 5:31 PM)