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Re: [Boatloadakids] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
My setup seems to be kind of in the middle.

Rods: 6.5' Med Heavy ugly stick and 6.5' Med Ugly Stick Lite.

Reels: Okuma Baitfeeder spinning

Line: Currently 14 lbs Nanofil with a similar wt. leader. I'm not sure I'll stay with Nanfil, it seems to come apart over time. Casts great though.

Hooks: anywhere from 1/0 bait holder to 5/0 octopus, depending on bait size and what came out of the tackle box as I hurried to re-tie.

Method: drag or drift 0.5 to 1 mph, bobbers over rocky bottom or in water too shallow to drag.

Bait: Cut WB, Carp or shrimp. Always try to get "still bleeding" cut bait when I can.

I also fish an inline float much of the time. As I learned last year it is a variation of the Santee rig mentioned several times in this thread. My float last year was a corkie, spin n glow or wobble glow. The float stays near the bait almost like a FLIG. I also use fligs and love them. Usually one rod has just a small sinker, a hook and a bling bead or two. (If you want to know why, shine a UV light on the bling bead. The good ones light up way beyond what you and I can normally see. great for murky water)

I always try to have different presentations in the water until the fish show a strong preference. I switch up floating or not floating, bling or not bling, large or small baits, carp or WB, etc.

Most trips the fresh WB outperforms, but not always.

An earlier post mentioned shrimp under a bobber. That is how I learned to catch UL channels and loved it for many years. One year I did an experiment between fresh cut bait and shrimp. Tried to fish them in equal amounts. Total of over 100 cats that summer. 60-70% of the total number came on shrimp. 60-70% of the cats 5 lbs and larger came on cut bait. The apparent preference of larger fish for cut bait is not proof, but is statistically significant. Since I fish the contest, I now lean hard toward cut bait. That said, 2 of my top three cats took a shrimp. Go figure.

I fish almost exclusively at UL, almost entirely because it is close (and great cat fishing.)

One other apparent anomolly that might prove useful to someone. In the winter months almost all the cats I've landed came at night.

BTW, I am not a born cataholic. I fish them because they are available, hard fighting and good eating. My roots are in the rivers and coastline of SW Oregon and there things pull hard and are generally good eating. My leaning toward longer rods, smooth drags and somewhat lighter tackle also come from learning to fish chasing steehead in those rivers.

I'm looking forward to a great year for all!
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(This post was edited by Springbuck on Feb 14, 2019, 9:40 AM)
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Re: [Boatloadakids] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
My rig is just about like yours, Boatload, right down to the hooks, except I usually go one size smaller. My reels are old fashioned Mitchell spinners from the late 60's (?) Just strong, simple, and well made.

I usually have 25 lb braid or so, with a 15 lb mono leader. I rig either Carolina rig (with a sliding sinker), a simple hook (or two) under a bobber, or sometimes I free-line a chunk of bait.

Carp and white bass always get used, usually fresh if possible. Next go-to bait is I save the trimmed bits when I cut up a package of elk or deer meat, let it get JUST a tad ripe (nothing like rotten, just gamey), and hook that stuff on.

I'm usually wading from shore, but sometimes get out in a kayak.
(This post was edited by Springbuck on Feb 12, 2019, 12:38 PM)
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Re: [RockyRaab] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
A ear plug wouldnít get my bait off the bottom.
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Re: [TubeDude] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Thanks Pat,
Guess I missed that chapter, but looks like a good idea if you run out of fligs any how... Thanks Jeff
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Re: [ice_sled] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Thanks Ben, I'm going to have to try the drift fishing a little more next year... I'm too much into bank tangling for cats lately and I know I've done better when I'm covering more ground... Have to see if that helps... Thanks Jeff
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Re: [SkunkedAgain] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
If you go to your fave search engine and plug in "Santee Rig"...or Santee Cooper Rig...you will find grundles of articles and info about the use of an inline float between sinker and bait.


I have been using various versions of it for years, without knowing there was a name for it. When I first came back to Utah in 2004 I was shown how to fish minnows and white bass meat for walleyes using a corky float sliding on the line between sinker and bait. Caught quite a few walleyes and plenty of cats and white bass too. That is one of the reasons I dusted off my old flig system...and it works too.



The basic idea is the same...float the bait off the bottom with something colorful to attract more visual attention. Bling beads on steroids.


There are plenty of tanglers who chuck out those rigs from the bank and do well. You can just let it sit or you can actively work it back in slowly...a few inches at a time... with some sexy wiggles to help attract more attention. When the fish are moving and active they will find your offering and vote for it. If not, you can work it a bit to help stimulate a reaction bite.

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Re: [RockyRaab] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
RockyRaab wrote:
For a quick and dirty version, you can use a foam earplug as the "floatie". Thread one on the line with a large needle. Or just make a slit lengthwise, slip the line in, and apply a drop of superglue.

Rocky,
That is the exact set up I use most of the time.
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Re: [TubeDude] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Guess Iíve been using it and not known it was named as well, but my version was a little different using marshmallows as the floats. Thanks for the info on that. J
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Re: [SkunkedAgain] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
will Jeff looks like everyone has answered be for I did. the top picture on Pat's post is the setup I use. works great for me

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Re: [Ahi1953] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Thanks John I appreciate the info. Jeff
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Re: [Ahi1953] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Growing up in KS, I spent a lot of time hunting the kitties. I sure do miss the cats out that way when compared to the ones out here. My rig of choice is a 6.5' Medium rod, spinning reel with 8-12lb line, various size circle hooks and my bait of choice, usually shrimp or dead goldfish.

I've only ever gone after cats here in UL or some of the community ponds with my kids, but I'm hoping to get out this year and try my hand at the Bear River cats.

I sure do miss hooking into 20-30lb cats, or using live bait for flatheads and chasing the real monsters pushing 60-80lbs. Hopefully the Bear cats can pose more of a challenge than what UL has offered up.




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Rods: 7'-6" medium heavy Ugly Stick GX2 and a 7'-6" medium Big Cat Fever.

Reels: Pflueger President XT and a Pflueger Supreme XT

Line: 50 LB Power Pro Super Slick 8 and Regular Power Pro

Hooks: Either a 4/0 or 6/0 Gamakatsu octopus hooks depending on bait size and where I'm fishing.

Bait: Usually carp or sucker meat but sometimes chicken liver

Method: Usually bank sitting but have a boat to fish out of this year. Normally run a 2 oz. sinker above a swivel and about 18 inches or so of line to the hook.

Really wanna put the yak in at the valley view launch and just float the river to the cutler launch at some point this summer dragging baits one night. But I usually fish cutler reservoir or jump the border north to chase them on the bear outside of Preston.
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Re: [Boatloadakids] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Just 15 days to opening day. Remember when that was a thing?

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Re: [catchinon] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Still is for some of us Cataholics!
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Re: [catchinon] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Except for the fact that opening day used to be really good fishing... Fraid our opener will be pretty slow catching... But who knows some of you guys have the chilly cat thing down pat... As for me, I expect I'll be mid march before I can catch anything if I'm lucky... But then again, I'll be ice fishing till then anyway... Later J
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Re: [SkunkedAgain] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
"you guys have the chilly cat thing down pat..."

Down who?
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Re: [catchinon] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
I picture you with one of those paper chains that you rip a link off everyday like kids do at Christmas. Me I feel like I need a Valium to pass the time Iím getting so anxious to hit the lake and try out the new rod and reel and boat. Never am I going to buy new toys months in advance.
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Re: [Mooseman75] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
"Never am I going to buy new toys months in advance."

Fishermen should never say NEVER.
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Re: [TubeDude] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Yup thatís right ďPatĒ. Wondered if youíd pick up on that. By the way I see Willard ice was clearing on the way home from work tonight. So Iíd expect it wonít be long until you show that technique. Wind has really picked up now so I bet it will clear the rest of the ice over the next little while. I couldnít tell if the open water went all the way to the ramp yet but the channel was open into the north marina a long ways and there was open water on south and north sides of the lake. Big ice island in the middle. Anyway I thought you might be interested in that info. Later J
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Re: [SkunkedAgain] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
I have had intel from a couple of local sources who also say the lake is clearing. Might still be a week or two before the ice is off and Mama Nature gets back on her meds. Cold and wind are not good go-togethers in a float tube. And I usually do better after the breezes have helped re-oxygenate the winter water a bit.

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Re: [TubeDude] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Iím sure it wonít take long before youíre back after them. I sure donít do well in the early open water myself, itís the toughest time of year for me to fish. Always amazes me how you guys catch fish this time of year. Hopefully Iíll figure out how to do better, but I think Iíll stay on the ice as long as I can. Good luck. J
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Re: [Mooseman75] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Mooseman, If you cant wait the deer creek state park wed says the main ramp is open and the wedge dock is in. I would call or do a recon before you take the boat up.

Pat, I'm surprised you haven't been to Lincoln yet, its been soft for a couple weeks, just cant get it out of the harborsFrown
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Re: [MSM1970] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
Yeah, I'm in the advanced twitching stages of piscatorial withdrawal. And while I have caught fish down there every month of the year, I have mellowed a bit as age bites me on the backside. I have long proclaimed that I fish for enjoyment...not endurance. Although a few of my escapades might contradict that.


I am almost always on Utah Lake by early March. I always do better once the sun comes out and warms the water to at least 40 degrees. Cats are still pretty slow, but that is about the beginning of the walleye prespawn feeding session. So, by taking a range of lures and baits I can usually find something to treat my winter withdrawals.


Over the indoor months I have made a bunch of new lures, built a couple of new fliggin' rods and come up with a new PVC front deck system for my tube. I wanna get out and try all that new stuff...even if I don't decimate the fish population.


Soon, my son. Soon.


I'm guessing that you hear the walleyes callin' too. Did you check to see if they stocked it at Bird Island this year? Ha!

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Re: [TubeDude] Cataholic cat rigs? In reply to
At this point right now, I unloaded all tackle from the boat, anything in packages has been opened put away organized stacked and waiting, rod and reel has been cleaned lubed sitting in the corner being sad because of lack of useFrown
daily checks on the weather and web cams,

Therapist said its ok to fish from the bank.

Have been to Lincoln every weekend the last 3 checking and fishing, harbor was free for a couple days, then iced over again, ice stacks have blown off the island, seen two pelicans show up last weekend. so i know its getting close,

took up crappie fishing at first spring to make the time pass, not near as exciting but will have to do until the ice goes away. found out I have a hole in my old waders, so cant go too deep. was wanting to fish the little rock pile between the harbor exit and first spring. just about every one I've seen fishing is just wanting to catch fish, not target one kind.

some are still taking bucket loads of WB home.

water level is about to cover the rocks, almost to the seem on the ramp.
it is launchable level have to run with motor up and watch the rock at the dock.

it seems to help to talk about it knowing I am not the only one that waiting IMPATIENTLY.
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(This post was edited by MSM1970 on Feb 15, 2019, 8:50 AM)
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