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Ice on Mantua?
I heard a rumor it was close. Did the cold last night cap it? I suspect it did. I hope it is better ice than Cutler. Cutler had all that snow that turned to a layer of slush and now it wont freeze all the way through and seems to act like an insulation layer. Im afraid its so warm this next week that we wont grow safe ice anytime soon, but please prove me wrong. Later J
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Re: [SkunkedAgain] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
About an inch and a half yesterday of good ice on my pond in Benson, but it's still suffering from the slush hang over, so not very good quality ice, don't know if it will get safe until it's fairly thick this year.. Unless it clears off again and starts new... Hope it gets safe sooner rather than later.... J
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That holiday snow that fell on already ice capped lakes hurt.
I was hoping to be on Mantua this fri but now Im skeered....
Its all fun and games until someone loses an eye.
** Member formally known as SBennett.
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Re: [MrShane] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
Yup I think I'm white fishing Bear Lake this weekend... Jeff
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Re: [SkunkedAgain] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
Matua was mostly capped this morning, with a few open spots on the east side.
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Re: [garlars] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
Welcome to the forum and thanks for the report. Man I wish it was going to be colder this week so it would get safe, but I'll bet it will grow slow at this weeks predicted temps... Would sure be fun to get started up there soon... Thanks so much for the info... Did you happen to check thickness or just a drive by like I always do? Thanks Jeff
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Re: [SkunkedAgain] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
Just a drive by. It's on my way to work.
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Re: [SkunkedAgain] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
Pretty much the whole state is in those perfect conditions for someone to get too brave and fall in sometime in the next couple weeks. Even Huntington and Scofield are just getting down to 20 degrees or so at night and going above freezing for a few hours a day.
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Re: [SkunkedAgain] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
Saw someone fishing it last night driving home. Dont know how thick it is but someone braved it
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Re: [DjHill16] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
One Brave soul was fishing this morning about 50 yards out on the southwest corner.
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Re: [DjHill16] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
Last year we went out on 3 and just west of us a group tried to get on and went through the ice. Really have to check that lake so you dont hit a thin spot. Thanks everyone for the heads up. I went to Bear Lake today instead and well i missed the skunk just barely found one dinky male white fish that I thought was a Cisco it was so small, but it kept me from smelling all skunky. Anyway hope the ice gets safe before someone goes through. Later Jeff
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Yeah, last year I was waiting for the ice to get 4" thick and lost out on the prime action to all those who went out on 3-3.5". What would you advise this year?

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I'd advise to check as you go... a good spud bar can help you know if the ice is thick enough.. water with one hit usually means the ice is less than 2" so probably a good idea to stay off... Two hits without water and I'm dumb enough to keep going out farther... A Spud bar is easy to take with you and test as you go, much easier than drilling a hole and way faster... you can test every few feet if you're on thin stuff and afraid it might get thinner, better than falling through... My experience with ice break through is you usually don't know you're in trouble until it's too late and you're going through... However, sometimes you'll see the sag first... Good idea to get to a safe spot when that starts to happen... I had a close call on Newton last year with the ice sagging towards a line of 3 holes that decided it was too weak and wanted to break... I moved quickly and didn't drill as many holes in the new location... Have your flotation suits or life jackets on just in case and the rope and a buddy on safe ice is always a good idea when being stupid.... You need someone to laugh at you as you're failing in the icy water... Later Jeff
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A few years ago at Tibble there was one tent out on the ice so I decided to try. Got halfway to him and me and my buddy both started to sag down in a bowl with all my gear, guy comes out and says, "Hey watch out, the ice is kinda thin!" We got out and went back to unload, then go back and try with just an auger. That day I went up to my waist under the edge and learned that getting one the ice at a steep bank is for fellers who want to be reeeeaaaalll cool if you know what I mean.

The ice was barely 3 inches where I did test once.
(This post was edited by Jedidiah on Dec 4, 2019, 9:19 PM)
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Omg, you hit it right on the nail! Wow, that is exactly right on! If ur spud punches through at one jab, for sure it's not ready, if it punches through at two it's walkable but risky, ok if on a cold day say 28 deg and below. 3 jabs and plenty safe. Two inches ice fishable on a cold day. 3in I can jump up and down like a trampoline and no worries, 4in there's no way in hell of falling through even if you're 400lbs. A day like today I would definitely not fish mantua thin ice, it's waaaay warm. That ice is mushy as hell and can easily give way. This whole wk is not ice making weather right now. But yeah a one two punch with a spud is the best unscientific way to measure safe ice. I also plunge my hand into the spud hole to grab ice sheet to measure thickness. Most times when you get 4in of ice the fishing is over with lol.
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Re: [Fin-S-Fish] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
I marked inches on my spud blade so I can tell how thick it is on the fly. Sort of blew my mind when I realized 2 will hold a fat boy like me up. But its really easy to lose a half inch of ice in a couple steps so its a very dangerous time to be on the ice and I dont want to take much gear and it should be the cheap stuff you dont mind losing.

I havent been to motivated to try Mantua yet, it is risky and havent heard of great fishing yet so best to be safe till we get decent ice. I tend to think its the crowds and noise that shuts the fishing down so once the ice is safe for the crowds, thats usually when the fishing slows down. Had a guy tell me the other day that he would watch the fish leave as people walked over them. He had the pan optics system and was watching crappie from the side view. Makes sense to me, I always figured those gas augers are one of the worst offenders for scaring fish away. Anyway be safe and good luck. Later Jeff
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Re: [Jedidiah] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
Too often its too easy to trust someone else that made tracks so it mustve been safe. I do that way too often rather than pulling out the spud bar and checking to make sure. Those sags are not fun, especially when water leaks into them and it gets too slick to walk up out of the sag. Had that happen once and I didnt have my spikes on so I was getting nervous before I finally got enough traction to get out and move away from the area. So I havent ever checked for sure, but Im thinking the sags are more a deal on warmer days. Have you ever noticed when they happen? Probably a day like today on Mantua would be a high sag potential. Just a guess though. Well glad you made it out without freezing the vitals off. The cold water really has a shocking effect when you plunge in. Well good luck and stay on the top side. Later Jeff
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Fin-S-Fish wrote:

Most times when you get 4in of ice the fishing is over with lol.

That may be true at a few places; however, for many places (Strawberry, Bear Lake, Flaming Gorge, Fish Lake and many others included.) the catching has just begun.


We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behaviour.
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Re: [kentofnsl] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
I think he was thinking of the lakes that the hoards frequent close to civilization... I know Mantua, Hyrum and Pineview all follow the same type cycle as mentioned, but when you can get there on quite days the fish still want to play, just not as hot as they do at first... Later Jeff
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Ice fishing crowds are something else. I am trying to be a nicer guy but man some people need some lessons. Dude on Scofield whipping his kids around through the tents on a sled towed behind an ATV (circling my tent a dozen times), several VERY drunk dudes trying to pound a hole through the ice with a spud bar, guy who keeps coming over to my jaw jacker to check it, kids running and yelling around through camp, guy with his wife and 6+ kids including a screaming baby. No joke, a baby in a carrier, on the ice...Huntington, 10 degrees outside. I don't fault people for just basically being people but I mean...some folks maybe need some better training in manners.
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Re: [Jedidiah] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
That is why I like to walk considerably further than the vast majority of ice-anglers do. Even then, that doesn't always totally solve the problem.


We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behaviour.
- Stephen M.R. Covey
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Re: [kentofnsl] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
Too true. Another good tactic is fishing at night, especially on those lakes where the fish like to come out and play after sunset.
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Re: [Jedidiah] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
I think that's a big part of why I like thin ice, but I've also met a lot a nice guys while ice fishing too, it's a good time to BS and teach others things that might work to help them or me do better, but we've all had days when we run into the likes that you mentioned... and it can sort of put a damper on the day, but I don't let it ruin it, I just move on to the next spot, if I can... Snowmobiles and smitty's willing to move makes ice fishing better... I really like the Nanook so if I need to move it's quick and easy to get to the next spot... unlike my hub that it was a major task to move to the next spot... Let's hope we get some good trips in before the general crowds show up... Later Jeff
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Re: [Jedidiah] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
I know what you mean. The other day I paused to think about my signature :

"Blessings upon all that hate contention, and love quietness, and virtue, and Angling." - Izaak Walton

and compared it to my last couple of trips to Trial Lake. One group, a couple of young couples, came out and set up not too near us but close enough that we could hear their loud speaking. They were drinking (and I have nothing against responsible drinking) and ripping out with the f-word and some other choice expletives. I actually didn't mind too much their raucous laughs and shouts when they caught something. But all-in-all it didn't enhance my experience. The second time we were hopping around trying to find some active fish. We ended up sorta close to a shelter containing a father and several small kids. One was a toddler, even ( I know for sure because the wet wipe that they left on the ice). They made a lot of noise. I didn't mind the giggles and laughter but it was hard to tell that from the crying and whining. He was a nice man and was happy to share with us his success and the go-ahead to use his holes when he left. I realize it's a hard balance knowing when to take the kids along to help build a love of the outdoors and when it may have the opposite effect. But I ramble. I think if we are going to be in close proximity to others we have to build a bit of a thick skin. But ripping through your area on an ATV and other crazy stuff does push yer patience fer sure. I can still walk a ways but that doesn't mean someone won't come and set up near you. And sometimes I get to fish weekdays which solves a lot of the problems.

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Re: [kentofnsl] Ice on Mantua? In reply to
I hardly ever fish the places you mentioned lol. Kinda far type places. I stick with hyrum, pine, mantua, echo, rockport, UL, deer creek mostly. I used to be able to walk to virgin ice at mantua, in latter years there isn't any ice without footsteps and holes no matter what direction you go. Some fish follow distinct patterns and concentrate in only a particular spot, once that spot is fished out, it's done for the season. And no it's not noise or people that necessarily shut fish down, it's catch and release pressure. People like to be heroes on this forum and hook a hundred fish a day then expect it to keep happening. That isn't gonna happen. You hook a bass once and it takes years or sometimes they never forget. lol. Trout are somewhat dumber it can take a couple nasty stabs before they get smarter. But mantua bluegill are as smart as lmb. I know this from personal observation. They stare and stare to make sure what they are eating is real. Upwards of 90 percent will stare and just leave until you get the presentation just right. Some fish like white bass just roam, there is a certain secret time frame when they move into shore and fill up harbors, then overnight they are gone and will never return till may.
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