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Muskellunge or muskie are large, relatively rare freshwater fish of North America. They are the largest member of the pike family. Anglers seek mature muskies as coveted trophies or simply for a good fight. They are known by anglers for long, powerful runs, and stunning aerial acrobatics. At best a challenging fish to catch, the muskie has been called "the fish of 10,000 casts". Their low resilience and slow rate of reproduction have caused many governments to instate breeding programmes and harvest limits in an effort to maintain populations and provide anglers with a better chance at a trophy fish.
The muskellunge is native to Ohio and is found in both major drainage basins of the state. Historically, it was abundant in the bays and tributaries of Lake Erie and in many streams in the Ohio River drainage. Currently, it is also found in several impoundments around the state but
Ohio does not have a regulatory size limit and allows 2 fish to be kept daily.
Prevent over harvest and help Ohio's muskies grow to be the mature trophy fish Ohio's musky anglers desire. Support a limit of 1 fish daily measuring 40 inches or more.

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I'm alittle confused here Aaron. If your fisheries division has deemed that two fish a day are supported by biomass, then why would you want to put any restrictions on creel limit or size. Kinda like a peta move. We can keep pike here as well, but no one does, same as Lgmouth bass.

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the "Tiger Muskie" is the largest of the pike family,
it is also the "mule" of the pike family, in that they do not sucessfuly breed at all, many states have put toghther breeding programs to produce a breeding pair of muskie with no reward for their efforts.

tiger muskie are bread and raised on fish farms for release in to public waters.

Now I am sure any one who has read this hasnt a clue to my sanity here because I said they dont breed, yet I said they are being bread in captivity. No I did not get this wrong, What I said is fact.

Tiger Muskie are mules like I said in that they cant reproduce. they are a highbred cross between a muskie and a northern pike. This dose happen naturaly in the wild where there are northern pike and muskie in the same water.

as to which one dose the polinating and which one dose the eggs I do not know. it might go both ways.

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Re: [davetclown] OHIO MUSKY SIZE LIMIT PETITION In reply to
World record musky is 69 pounds 11 ounces depending on if Louie Spray's record is regarded as the real record if not it is the 67 1/2-pound musky caught by Cal Johnson. The world record tiger musky is only 51 pounds 3 ounces caught in Wisconsin in 1919 but it can't be validated. The 2 largest validated tigers of the last 55 years are 40 pounds and 40 pounds 2 ounces. So as you can see a regular musky is much larger than any tiger muskies to date. As for how a tiger is created here is the information on that subject. Although it can occur naturally, in most cases the hybrid is created in hatcheries by the fertilization of female muskellunge eggs by a male northern pike. While male tiger musky are always sterile, small numbers of females may be fertile.
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Re: [icing_perch] OHIO MUSKY SIZE LIMIT PETITION In reply to
Why do some anglers forsake all other fish for just one rendezvous with a muskellunge? Because having a muskellunge on the other end of the line is the aquatic equivalent of having a tiger by the tail. The muskellunge will confound the angler with its aerial acrobatics, one moment leaping completely out of the water to shake the hook; the next, lying still on the bottom like an unyielding snag. These famous fighters (once hooked, they may take over an hour to land) have been known to drag the line underneath the boat and wrap it around the nearest submerged tree stump. They will crack rods, strip reels, bend hooks, mutilate the bait and do whatever else they can to escape. Hooking a muskellunge is a first- class fresh-water thrill no angler will ever forget

I stand corrected in part about the tiger musky,

that part is that the natrualy produced tiger muskey subspecies are smaller than the musky family, I seem to remember a 75 pound tiger musky being caught in a lake near me some 30 years ago and the picture made it in to the paper. I will check on that at another time to see if I remembered that right. for the longest time that artical was posted on the wall at my local but now closed bait shop.

the part about musky being steril is a fact, at least as far as the information that I can gather on the subject.

I have checked with several encyclopedias.
here is what I found.

Muskellunge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tiger muskellunge - Columbia Encyclopedia article about Tiger ... say the same thing almost word for word about the tiger. Tiger Muskellunge
Esox masquinongy immaculatus

Because of their shared preferences, muskellunge and northern pike often occur in the same body of water, leading to incidents of interbreeding. A cross-breed of the Muskellunge found in the lakes of the Midwest, the Tiger Muskellunge is
hybrid of the Great Lakes Muskellunge and the Northern Pike. The offspring of these rare couplings are sterile; most specimens are introduced via stocking programmes for the benefit of sport fishermen. They are smaller than purebred muskies but share their coloration. However, tiger muskies have tails similar to northern pike. The body is apt to be more or less silvery, without spots, but with indistinct crossbands.

Name Variations
Unspotted Muskellunge, Wisconsin Muskellunge, Barred Muskellunge.

Definition and Much More from

Spawns in spring when water temperature reaches 4959F(9.415C). Similar courtship and spawning behavior as E. lucius (Northern Pike), but avoids areas where that species spawns by releasing eggs in deeper water. In nature, these two species form sterile hybrids that are known as tiger muskies.

And finaly here is what cabela's has to say about tiger muskies.

Outdoorsmen are passionate about what they do. We simply love hunting and fishing, if only we could do both at once. Maybe as close as you can get is casting for tiger muskie.

Tiger muskie are the sterile hybrids of northern pike and muskellunge. They get their name from the distinctive "tiger" stripes that adorn their sides.

Northerns and muskies are closely related, but the hybrids occur in nature only rarely. All hybrid fishes have a natural trait called "hybrid vigor." This vigor allows the hybrid offspring to grow stronger, less susceptible to diseases, and most of all -- faster than perhaps the parents stock would grow. For tiger muskie, that bodes well; they come from good breeding you might say. Muskellunge and northern pike are some of the fastest growing fish in North America. A northern pike reaches about 30 inches in five years on the southern end of its range; muskellunge only out paces northerns by a couple of inches.

Tiger muskie have another trait that most other hybrid fish do not, and that's sterility. At first, that may seem like a poor trait. That means that hatcheries have to continually supplement the stocks in the wild. That tiger muskie can not reproduce gives fish biologists an opportunity to stock a large, aggressive predatory fish in man-made habitats where they pose no threat of overpopulating. That also assures fishery managers that they can limit predation on other game fish by stocking only certain numbers of tiger muskie. Biologists raise tiger muskie in hatcheries, stock them out and let them grow big, then you hunt them.

Another benefit of hybrid vigor is habitat tolerance. That is to say, waters too warm for one of the parents are usually fit for tiger muskie up to a point. Like their parents, tiger muskies fair best in cooler waters of lakes and reservoirs. But since tiger muskie can tolerate warmer waters, they have made their way farther south that their parental stock. Since the 1970s, tiger muskie have been stocked in about 25 states in lakes that might not otherwise have a big predatory fish. They've been stocked in select lakes in New England, through the South, and westward to the Pacific Northwest.

One place where tiger muskie do not differ from their parents, and that's diet. Their long bodies, with fins placed way back on the body spell one thing: ambush. Tiger muskies lurk for food among weeds. That's how they make a living, lying in wait, patiently holding out for the next big morsel, taking it by quick bursts of speed at the unsuspecting. Eating the big stuff saves time. It costs less, too -- less energy that is. An unsuspecting smaller neighbor comes swimming by, then slash; it's in the maw of a tiger muskie. Anything with fur, fins, or feathers near the water is fair game; tiger muskie prey on chubs and suckers, crayfish and frogs, even mice and ducklings are vulnerable meals. The tiger muskie's sharp teeth make escape not much of an option. Since they eat larger foods, they typically eat less frequently than other game fishes.

Tiger muskie have an attraction to heavily vegetated clear water. They are solitary creatures and may defend a territory of prime weed beds bordered by spaces of open water where they wait for prey.

Recent scientific studies sheds some light on seasonal behavior of tiger muskies.

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife biologists spied on the habits of tiger muskie, and what they learned can help you earn your stripes fishing for these unique hybrids.

The behavior of both northern pike and muskies are fairly well known. But not so for their hybrid offspring. Fishery biologists fitted 16 tiger muskie, some up three feet long, with radio tags and followed them for up to 34 months in Mayfield Reservoir in the southern part of the state.

This study showed that tiger muskie use different habitats in summer and fall versus winter and spring. It also showed that in the warmer months tiger muskie are likely to move much less.

Makes sense. There's probably more forage available in the warmer months and it takes fewer trips to the grocery store to get a full stomach.

In the summer and fall, individual tiger muskies stayed in an area of about 120 acres. In winter and spring that increased to 340 acres. From year to year, the same individual fish occupied the same home range much like northern pike and muskies do.

In summer and fall, tiger muskie lurked in aquatic vegetation in five to eight feet of water. But in winter and spring, they moved off shore to open water 16 to 32 feet deep.

According to the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, tiger muskie in Mayfield Reservoir apparently do not interact with trout.

In warm months they are up in the weeds away from trout, and in colder months when they go deep, their metabolism and desire to feed is much less.

Tiger muskie are an aggressive sport fish, by all accounts, more so than muskie or northern pike. And they do get big. The all-tackle record stands at 51 pounds and 3 ounces, caught in Wisconsin in 1919.

To go after them, you'll need a heavy casting rod fitted with 20-pound test, tipped with a wire leader. The heavy gear will be necessary for tossing three-ounce stick and crank baits like a Super Shad or big buck tail spinners. Baits that look like suckers and chubs bring fish to the boat. Rapala Husky Jerk is another consistent bait.

Folks that go after tiger muskie are the big game hunters of fishing. Troll or cast big cranks in cold weather; tiger muskies in warmer weather are probably best sought like northerns, by stalking. Slipping into shallow water and casting a stick bait on the edge of the weed may send a tiger ripping at your offering and make your drag zing. You can't hunt and fish at they same time, but this may be as close as it gets.

If the Lord's willing, You'll be Blessed.
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Aaron, I forgot to mention in my checking up on the tiger musky I found that 90 percent of all musky caught in ohio are plants by ohio's fisheries. This is also true in PA and the percentage is a slightly bit smaller in NY.

the reason for this is that musky tho that they are at the top of the food chain, they are extreemly vulnerable to many of the fish species when they are fry, especialy from pike fry because they are hatched almose a couple weeks before musky.

michigan has a minimum limit and season on musky of 42 inches, with the exception of inland lakes being that the season never closes on musky.

there are exceptions in lakes some have no minimum size limit, some have 30 inch minimum and others has a 50 inch minimum lenth. so if any one in michigan is going to start counting down cast from 10,000 they might want to check with their local dnr office first to see just what the score is....

one other note I would like to add, musky have been known to swallow full grown ducks from the top of the water. and I have seen it in person, ducks go down and never come back up....

If the Lord's willing, You'll be Blessed.