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A guy at our Ottawa Flyfishers Society (OFS) brought a Tenkara rod to show us at one of our meetings/presentation.

Of course we had previously had some presentations the last few weeks by Don Meissner, and Tom Rosenbauer. So their presentations sure got me all excited in trying stream fishing again.

Therefore the guy's Tenkara impressed me, especially for stream fishing use, which I was shopping possibly for a 3wt gear. I said to myself that could do the trick instead and simplify my planned trips to NY excursions for stream trouts, or when I go hunting for big game (e.g., moose) and stop at those small water holes and streams, always wondering if they held anything in them.

Ordered the Iwana 12' 6:4

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Re: [LeGrand] Tenkara In reply to
Found this article:

http://www.tenkarabum.com/tenkara-rods.html

I think the 6:4 is the way to go. I have been told the 7:3 are just a little too stiff, and as the author put in this article, the 5:5 is a little lacking.

I am looking at the Stonefly 360. For the price I could get two, and not worry about them.
I make my own leaders so this would be a good way for me to improve on my leaders.





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Re: [flygoddess] Tenkara In reply to
I had found two days ago the Tenkarabum web link myself. Did not pay attention to the details concerning the Stonefly rod. Since I had looked more closely to this one

http://www.tenkarausa.com/index.php?cPath=22

It is my understanding the Stonefly rod are not from Tenkara, but are also telescopic and Tenkarabum supplies Stonefly rods.

By the way thanks for the link and attention to the Stonefly rods. Interesting. My order is already place since last night for the Iwana, but if I would have paid more attention to the Stonefly rods, it might have made my choice more difficult.

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Im still a little confused on these rods.. more specifically with the leaders...

You know me sis.. I like it simple... hook it up... toss our a fly.. and see if the fishies are hungry and easily confused...

ON one hand the author talks about the furled leader... and then in the next breath mentions the hi-vis fluro leader...

other than material make up.. what is the difference between the two...

when.. or more specifically with what flies would one or the other be better to use... ??

MacFly





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Re: [macfly55] Tenkara In reply to
Small dry flies will always be a Furled Leader choice. Nothing can lay out smoother, lighter and more delicate than a furled.
Some mentioned the level leaders to power more, so maybe with a faster rod, or wind or heavier flies.





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Re: [flygoddess] Tenkara In reply to
Im must be going blonde today.. but you lost me on the level leaders??

also.. is a furled leader NOT the leader for heavier flies and winds.. or is it just not the preferred leader??

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Re: [macfly55] Tenkara In reply to
Level leaders are like straight mono...no taper. And yes, the preferred leader, I use Furled leaders for everything except on sinking lines and deep nymphing over 10'.
But my leaders for Tenkara's are 10' to 12' long, because there is no line. So figure a 12' rod and a 12' furled leader with maybe 4' of mono/fluoro on the end of that then fly, you got about 26' you can cover, most small creeks are not that wide, that is why I want one of these so bad.





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Re: [macfly55] Tenkara In reply to
Speaking of longer reach, check this video out.......Tube Dude could have a hay day making these...LOL

http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related





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so you are saying I could take a length of fluro only and attach to the rod end and let fly??? or would you go with say a 10' level leader at maybe 12# test and mayber 4' of smaller 6# fluro in a loop to loop connection??


with that much "reach"... especially on a narrow creek or stream.. you do some dapping and see how many hard hits you get from trout on the rise.. :-)...

what I picture mostly is a good cast upstream and let it float down... only in this case I am not killing myself to make that longer cast (that I cant usually make anyway...lol)... say put a med sized popper on there and let it drift the edge of that stream.. Im betting some bass would love that meal.. :-)..

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Re: [flygoddess] Tenkara In reply to
40' rod.. come on...LOL.. but have to say I have seen those at one of the local lakes.. or something very similar...

MacFly





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No need for a float tube...LOL





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Re: [flygoddess] Tenkara In reply to
now that is true.... just reach out and touch some fishies... Sly ...

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Re: [flygoddess] Tenkara In reply to
That is way beyond Tenkara.

I didn't think that pole was for real!LaughLaughLaughLaugh

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Re: [cpierce] Tenkara In reply to
Those are called the HolyshizzkiesLaughLaugh I didn't ether, but there is is in video...LOL





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Re: [flygoddess] Tenkara In reply to
as I said I have seen those being used on a local lake... they guy was on a small side area of the lake and it looked like that pole was almost halfway across... LOL..

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Re: [flygoddess] Tenkara In reply to
Well it's catching on in our Club. A third member received his Iawna 12' yesterday.

This same guy with whom I went fly-fishing on the Salmon River in Pulaski, NY, had sent me a web link (sorry lost it) showing this Japanese fellow coming to the ??Kalum?? river in northern British Columbia, Canada for steelhead fishing. You tube clip lasted 30 minutes.

He had a telescopic graphite Tenkara style rod of over 20' and was catching huge browns and steelheads.

You should have seen how beautifully that rod bent and did it's work.

They drifted down to various places on that particular river.

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Re: [LeGrand] Tenkara In reply to
Found it.

http://yuhina.blogspot.com/...keena-steelhead.html

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Re: [LeGrand] Tenkara In reply to
That is GREAT! Mark Yuhina is a good friend, not only a fantastic fisher, but incredible artist:





However, there is this disclaimer about that video

NOTED: This is NOT a Tenkara rod! Thanks Hitoshi for the kindly correction! This is the "bait" rod, made for bait fisherman. I guess I had a strange idea to relate this rod to "two handed Tenkara". Hope this will explain some confusing! My apologies for the drunk and write! : )





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Re: [flygoddess] Tenkara In reply to
Yes noticed that also, but to be honest I still believe that it's a Tenkara style of fishing.

It's not like the guy is fishing sitting on a stool/chair on the bank beside a pound like the Europeens (mostly).

He is reading/placing (presentation) the line/tippet and "yes bait, instead of a fly" in the proper place in the current, which relates to "fly"-fishing / Tenkara techniques.

My 2 cents.

Anyway, great fishing.

It would be like a fly-tyer not using the commercial vise, but instead using an X-Acto knife, or tying a fly with his fingers without a vise. Would it then not be called Fly-Tying.

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(This post was edited by LeGrand on Mar 30, 2011, 1:01 PM)

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Re: [LeGrand] Tenkara In reply to
It would be like a fly-tyer not using the commercial vise, but instead using an X-Acto knife, or tying a fly with his fingers without a vise. Would it then not be called Fly-Tying.



Well, in both cases, it is the "ACT" not the tool. If you are attaching feather, hair, synthetic, etc to a hook, you are indeed tying a fly. What you use to get this done is not part of the act, just how it is done.
Fishing bait is fishing bait...not fly fishing. The ACT of both is similar in all sorts of ways, but fish a FLY with any other equipment than a fly rod and line is "fishing a fly" not fly fishing. Use bait, even with a fly rod and line...it is bait fishing.
That is my take on itWink

When I was little we used a pole, a piece of maybe 10' of mono, a hook with either a work, or a lure......that wasn't Tenkara, that was just pole fishing with bait or a lure.





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Re: [flygoddess] Tenkara In reply to
So, if your friend would use a fly at the end on that rod, line, tippet, instead of egg-sack bait, would it then be Tenkara fishing rod.

He! He!.

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