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Re: [kandersonSLC] Trolling Motors for NFO Rampage In reply to
Watever you do ,just save the reciept,even those wallmart batteries don't make it to the 18 months 75 % of the time.Only reason they won't give you full credit back is if you loose your reciept.The way I notice a problem with the battery is when it looses power early,then when I get home to charge it,it will read charged for some reason,sometimes I won't realize it and end up taking the damaged batt again on the next trip P.S,my boat weighs in a 66lb,plus I removed the middle seat for more deck space and added a foam floor.I always wanted a tube,it too looks comfy,looks good for catching some zzz's aswell.You all have fun out there,catch something nice for meFishin'

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Re: [kochanut] Trolling Motors for NFO Rampage In reply to
kochanut wrote:
renegade is a great boat but so is the avenger . . .and the assault

Man - all this toon talk - I'd almost think I was on the Rough and Rowdy board! Thrust - Shaft Length -Stripping - so much great advice!
All these tunes have such tough names! Guess that gives you the confidence to challenge the wind, AND the wakeboarders!

Two add-ons I've appreciated for my battery - a meter (guage) and a solar charger. Don't really know that the charger does a whole lot (especially if I've got the boat covered!) but it's a mental comfort.
One other tip - charge promptly. Even with a deep-cycle - you want to keep it charged up, you can kill the life out of a battery by storing it when run down.

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Paulpro wrote:
Watever you do ,just save the reciept,even those wallmart batteries don't make it to the 18 months 75 % of the time.Only reason they won't give you full credit back is if you loose your reciept.The way I notice a problem with the battery is when it looses power early,then when I get home to charge it,it will read charged for some reason,sometimes I won't realize it and end up taking the damaged batt again on the next trip[img]http://www.bigfishtackle.com/...rum/beaten.gif[/img] P.S,my boat weighs in a 66lb,plus I removed the middle seat for more deck space and added a foam floor.I always wanted a tube,it too looks comfy,looks good for catching some zzz's aswell.[img]http://www.bigfishtackle.com/...leeping.gif[/img]You all have fun out there,catch something nice for meFishin'

From a source on the net-

Batteries don't last forever - their lifetimes are measured in cycles, or how many times they can be discharged and recharged before they will no longer take a full charge. The depth of discharge (D.O.D.) has a major effect on the life expectancy of a battery - discharging only 80% of the total capacity of the battery will typically get you 25% more cycles than total discharges, and discharging to only 20% will make the battery last essentially forever. Car batteries, however, have to be treated differently - they're not designed to discharge even 20%, and will be damaged if they're deeply discharged. A "deep cycle" battery, on the other hand, can typically survive 400 full discharges.

Reciept or not- batteries are pro rated. With a 65 month warranty you might get a new one if it's 18 months old or less if it's determined it's defective. After that it's all down hill as far as replacement $$$$'s go.
A 36 month warranty will get you maybe a 12 month free replacement, then downhill again.
A car battery might work for you for a while, but weekly use will eventually take it's toll.
Each time you drain your car battery down enough that it effects your motor, you go and charge it up and you take a little more life out of it.
Next time you use it, you won't get as much time before the motor goes dead.
But again, you don't have to believe me.
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Thanks,I believe you,its that I had noticed my trucks batt was getting weak ,but autoparts refused to refund me until the batt was weaker,they did say the amperage was getting low? I didn't want to wait so I bought a new one for my truck and I plan to continue to drain the used one with my trolling motor.I didn't want to wait for the battery to leave me stranded one day.I still have a year until the waranty expires.Its not the most honest thing I've done,but the battery is about to die,I would of got a new batt eventually,I just didn't want to be stranded somewere in my truckwhen the time came,but I can't wait till it dies completely so I can return it for a new batt for my boat. P.S,I have two 2 deep cycle batteries,I sometimes alternate them,and its good incase one goes bad,you can still go fishing,its good back up.Paulpro likes to have two of everything.In all my years I think only one of these wallmart batt have last past their warranty,remember to check the water level in the batt every now and then.Sometimes I row to a spot,then use the car batt to fish,or take one deep cycle and one car batt. I can trailor my boat with a small batt inside,just saying,its nice to go light every now and then.Remember as a kid how regular bateries were always stronger than the rechargeable ones,"like in remote control cars"....same thing goes for the car battery,great power but for a shorter time.Ever have a bad reaction to battery acid,I have,it made me hard headed Laugh

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Re: [Paulpro] Trolling Motors for NFO Rampage In reply to
CoolIt is better to spend a little more than you want to than not quite enough.

It is false economy to try to "get by" with batteries. If you buy lesser quality to get a better price you WILL end up paying more in the long run. And what kind of price can you put on "peace of mind". Why would you risk driving on a dying battery? Why would you risk getting stranded on the lake with a battery that is going to quit on you at any time? You may think you are being clever but in the long run you will pay more in both money and frustration.

Quit trying to pinch pennies. Get a good quality deep cycle battery and maintain it properly. It will run your boat for years without worry and the hassle of switching out batteries or trying to take unfair advantage of a warranty policy. Hint: you only need ONE good battery.
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Re: [Paulpro] Trolling Motors for NFO Rampage In reply to
Paul, just my 2 cents worth added FWIW below in bold.

Hope this helps.

Pon


Paulpro wrote:
Thanks,I believe you,its that I had noticed my trucks batt was getting weak ,but autoparts refused to refund me until the batt was weaker,they did say the amperage was getting low?

Same thing has happened to me BUT with cordless tool batteries. I think we've all been skinned by retailers, on occasion. Some refuse to replace under SATISFACTION warranty unless the battery is completely DEAD or some other limitation they decide to come up with.

I didn't want to wait so I bought a new one for my truck and I plan to continue to drain the used one with my trolling motor.I didn't want to wait for the battery to leave me stranded one day.I still have a year until the waranty expires.Its not the most honest thing I've done,but the battery is about to die,I would of got a new batt eventually,I just didn't want to be stranded somewere in my truckwhen the time came,but I can't wait till it dies completely so I can return it for a new batt for my boat.

Some retailers offer a SATISFACTION return on battery with NO prorating so the retailers should be honest and stand by that, and some weasel out some way. They shouldn't and wouldn't falsely advertise satisfaction, if it was hurting their bottom line. They could give no return, like on electronics- if it is hurting the bottom line. NOT personal (if it hurt you), JUST business (if it helps them) to quote them. Of course most businesses are not like this, but neither are most people dishonest. Each is just looking out for their interest because of competition/service which is what makes America roll.

P.S,I have two 2 deep cycle batteries,I sometimes alternate them,and its good incase one goes bad,you can still go fishing,its good back up.Paulpro likes to have two of everything.In all my years I think only one of these wallmart batt

I also use the NASA system of having 2 of everything (redundancy) within reason, because most of my excursions are quite remote and failure would be life threatening. If redundancy is not possible, the backup plan is for some lighter alternative propulsion. In the case of batteries, I would take 2 of the smaller ones (instead of one large one) and wire with series/parallel switch so I have turbo or limp home power in case of emergency.


have last past their warranty,remember to check the water level in the batt every now and then.Sometimes I row to a spot,then use the car batt to fish,or take one deep cycle and one car batt. I can trailor my boat with a small batt inside,just saying,its nice to go light every now and then.

Weight is everything when going to remote or packing in. You can also use a lightweight setup in most places where you use the heavy, but NOT the other way around.


Remember as a kid how regular bateries were always stronger than the rechargeable ones,"like in remote control cars"....same thing goes for the car battery,great power but for a shorter time.Ever have a bad reaction to battery acid,I have,it made me hard headed Laugh
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Re: [pontoonman] Trolling Motors for NFO Rampage In reply to
Hey,your two cents were a great investment Yesterday we had some current,I blasted both electrics,my 54 on the bow,and the 34 on the side of the stern,plus I used my gas motor 1.75 hp ,one fishing buddy and one big wallmart batt.P.S. A battery reaction really happened to me,it lasted a good 2 weeksShocked ,I remember the battery till this day,and industrial batt,called a Workaholic ,not even deep cycle,anyway it fell in about 3 feet of water,I thought I can get it real quick without getting effected.I pretty much got poisoned.No doctor,I used a self heal meathod

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Re: [flygoddess] Trolling Motors for NFO Rampage In reply to
I have a Buck's Bags Southfork, is the motor setup good that you can buy from them or should one make his own? I would like some opinions please.
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Re: [truchas_ole] Trolling Motors for NFO Rampage In reply to
The one on page 13 http://www.bucksbags.com/images/08.pdf neat and clean and simple enough.
I think you can make your own with imagination. Maybe even add a Larger deck so you could pack more things like a coat or a lunch box.

I am sure that the deck NFO sells for their boats would work. All you do to that is add a 12" piece of 2 X 4 for the motor to clamp on and a little L piece of metal to secure the 2 X 4. Then you could haul 3 batteries if you wanted (I know, by would anyone, just saying that is the space you are looking at.) And it is aluminum - so light weight.



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Re: [flygoddess] Trolling Motors for NFO Rampage In reply to
Remember I have a Buck"s Bags SouthFork, right now the difference between a Minn Kota Endura 45 Lbs. thrust and a 55 Lbs. trust is $30.00. What do you suggest? Is the 55 too much for my pontoon? Does the battery run down a lot faster with the 55 Lbs. trust? Just some questions.
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Re: [truchas_ole] Trolling Motors for NFO Rampage In reply to
I have no idea on the power drain difference. I would think the 55 would draw more. For your pontoon ( South Fork). I think Minn Kota 30 will work. I had to go bigger because I needed the longer shaft.
I have that modified Minn 30 we use to use you are welcome to try.



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Re: [flygoddess] Trolling Motors for NFO Rampage In reply to
Thanks for your reply!!!
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