Fishing

Just wanted to let people know about the rac meeting on Nov. 1 at 9:00pm at the SLC DWR office, on the list to be talked about is the spear fishing being changed to year round 24 hr per day state wide...

The people who likes the lakers at Fish Lake should be there..

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Bassrods likes to fish for bass using Mojo lures and Weights, and Parasite Weights.
Practice CPR...Catch, Photograph and Release.
Utah state C&R record 23.5"
Tight lines....

Bassrods,
thanks for the heads up I will try to be there in support of spearfishing

In before the lock



" Si vis pacem, para bellum "

Bassrods do you happen to have a copy of the proposed agenda you could attach. I looked on the DWR site and it only shows the 1 Nov meeting and I see no agenda to review on what will be potentially discussed. I'd really like to review the agenda if at all possible.


Location: Lake Katchabigun

Once you know everything about anything its what you learn afterwards that counts.

Skunked, we never get skunked its the fish getting skunked as they just kept missing our lures.

Bwahaha.

I saw one of you fella's up at Deer Creek on Saturday and thought, "Man, those guys are friggin nuts, but I bet that's a hell of a lot of fun." Maybe one of these days I'll give it a go.
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"I'm not even against removing the carp from Utah Lake but I just think we should do it ethically and I also think if anything carp help protect some of these other fish from being overfished. " OMG, Save Teh Carpz!!1

First of all, the fishing RAC meetings have been completed in the previous two weeks. There are no more for the year. What you are referring to the Wildlife Board meeting that is indeed on November 1st at 9:00 AM.

Second, I don't see an agenda published yet for the WB meeting. Perhaps you would like to share with us how you know this change will be discussed? It wasn't on the agenda of items under consideration for this years RAC meetings and wasn't approved at the RAC meeting I attended. (it is possible it could have been passed at another RAC,)





Simon Peter saith.........I go a fishing. (John 21:3)

Crap, 9am or pm? I'm so confused.
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"I'm not even against removing the carp from Utah Lake but I just think we should do it ethically and I also think if anything carp help protect some of these other fish from being overfished. " OMG, Save Teh Carpz!!1

I do not have it (agenda) I was ask to get the word out about the spear fishing at Fish Lake..

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Bassrods likes to fish for bass using Mojo lures and Weights, and Parasite Weights.
Practice CPR...Catch, Photograph and Release.
Utah state C&R record 23.5"
Tight lines....

9pm.

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Bassrods likes to fish for bass using Mojo lures and Weights, and Parasite Weights.
Practice CPR...Catch, Photograph and Release.
Utah state C&R record 23.5"
Tight lines....

I dont think they schedule public meetings for 9 PM. Could be wrong, just sayin.

FYI. The proposal to change the spearfishing regulations to be the same as hook and line angling; i. e., 12 months of the year, all legal waters, was presented at a couple of the RAC meetings during the past two weeks. However, I do not believe that either RAC made a formal recommendation on the proposal.

Because no formal proposal was forthcoming from the RACs and the idea has not been part of our public process this year, the DWR is not proposing this change for 2013. The Wildlife Board does take comments during the meeting and can include items not in our recommendations, but it is relatively rare that they do so.

We encourage all anglers to be part of the process and are welcome to attend any of the RAC or Wildlife Board meetings which are related to fishing topics.

I have not seen the final agenda for the November 1 Wildlife Board meeting, but they usually start around 9 am.

We should have the final agenda in the next couple of weeks. People who are interested in the process should keep an eye on our website www.wildlife.utah.gov or should email me if they want more information on the time, location or topics of the board meeting.

Thanks,

Paul

I'm going on what I was told on time and what was going on.. I was told that if (yes if) and thats a big word the spear fishing laws was changed to year round and 24 hr per day it opened up Fish Lake as well..

Any INFO you can pass along about this would help..

I'm thinking you work for the DWR by your post??

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Bassrods likes to fish for bass using Mojo lures and Weights, and Parasite Weights.
Practice CPR...Catch, Photograph and Release.
Utah state C&R record 23.5"
Tight lines....

The RAC meeting I attended in Springville, spear fisherman proposed a year 'round season. They did not ask for 24 hr. The Utah bowfishing association was asking for the use of lights so they can shoot carp 24 hrs.

Paul - How can we email you and what is the address to the office?
Thank you!

  I've been told a lot of things over the years...some I find to be bs, some I find to be partly true, sort of. It's kind of hard what to believe anymore .


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The address of the office is 1594 W. North Temple, Salt Lake City (basically the northeast corner of North Temple and Redwood Road). My email is paulbirdsey@utah.gov. Please drop me a line if you have questions

I work as the Coldwater Sportfish Coordinator for the DWR.

Either myself or other DWR employees will post information on the agenda for the November 1 Wildlife Board meeting as it becomes available.

Paul

damn it some one beat me to it!





Have you read my Blog? I hear it's getting better!

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Thank you Paul, I am sure there will be several debates on the boad that factual input could help resolve. Thanks again for sharing the information.

Thanks I hope to see it, I have heard three story's so far about what will take place..

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Bassrods likes to fish for bass using Mojo lures and Weights, and Parasite Weights.
Practice CPR...Catch, Photograph and Release.
Utah state C&R record 23.5"
Tight lines....

Since we’ve already heard from a State employee (Paul) that your statements are false, I can only assume that none of your 3 stories came from an official source. And yet, you saw fit to bloviate unsubstantiated information to the masses via the Internet. I only have one question; why?



Bob Hicks, from Utah
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The recommendations below are the only items that were voted on at the RAC's. They will be the only items that will be presented at the Wildlife Board Meeting. This doesn't mean that a public citizen won't get up at the Wildlife Board and present a proposal.
There were two additional items that the public expressed interest in that deserve mention.
1. Several wheel-chair bound individuals attended the RAC's and would like to be provided an allowance for wheel-chair bound folks to bow-fish for carp with a cross-bow
2. There were 12-15 Joes Valley anglers who were interested in lifting the reservoir closure to allow some late fall tiger musky fishing. This group of anglers were historically splake anglers but are now apparently converts.

2013 Regulation Recommendations
Statewide

R-657-13-11

Legalize bow fishing for common carp at nightstatewide

Utah Code 23-20-8

Allow the disposal of common carp

Allow the disposal of other species of fish thathave been designated “Catch and Kill” in specific waters as approved by theWildlife Board.

R657-13-13

Currently gizzard shad are on the prohibited fishlist and they are currently allowed as dead bait at Lake Powell. So we would like to add the statement “exceptat Lake Powell” in the prohibited fish section (gizzard shad) where dead shadmay be used as bait.

R657-13-6

Allowance of three hooksper line statewide



RegionalSpecific Water Regulation Recommendations

NRO

BlacksmithFork River, CacheCounty

From the first highway Bridge (at themouth of the canyon) of state road 101 (Blacksmith Fork Canyon Road) to thehead waters.

· Onlyone fish may be over 15 inches.

· Bonuslimit of 4 brown trout (total limit of no more than 8 trout if at least 4 arebrown trout)



WeberRiver, Weberand Summit Counties

From The Great Salt Lake to Echo Dam

· Allcutthroat trout must be immediately released.

HolmesCreek Reservoir, DavisCounty

· Sixlargemouth bass only 1 largemouth bass may be over 12 inches.

WillardBay Inlet Channel

· Removeclosure

· Limitsthe same as Willard Bay

CRO

DeerValley Lakes, Wasatch County

· Two fish limit

UtahLake,Utah County

· Tributaries are closed to bow anglingfrom legal sunset on May 1 to legal sunrise the second Saturday in July

BlueLake

· Legalize underwater spearfishing fortilapia only

NERO

Green River, Carbon,Daggett, Emery, Grand, San Juan, Uintah and Wayne counties

· No limit on northern pike. Anglers must not release any northern pikethey catch. All northern pike must beimmediately killed.

· No limit on walleye. Anglers must not release any walleye theycatch. All walleye must be immediatelykilled.

· No limit on channel catfish

SRO

Boulder Mountainlakes and reservoirs, Garfield and Wayne counties

Includes all lakes and reservoirs found within the boundarybeginning at the junction of SR-24 and SR-62; then south on SR-62 to SR-22,then south on SR-22 to the Antimony-Widtsoe Road; then south on this road toSR-12; then east and north on SR-12 to SR-24; and then west on SR-24 to the beginningpoint at the junction of SR-24 and SR-62; EXCEPT Otter Creek Reservoir, PineLake and Wide Hollow Reservoir (where statewide rules apply) and DoughertyBasin Lake (where separate specific rules apply).

•Limit4 trout.

•Only2 trout over 14 inches.

• Bonuslimit of 4 brook trout (total limit of no more than 8 trout if at least 4 arebrook trout) at the following waters: Donkey Reservoir, Oak Creek Reservoir,and Moosman Lake.

• CLOSED Jan. 1 through 6 a.m. on the third Saturdayof April and Nov. 1 through Dec. 31. This closure excludes the followingwaters, which are OPEN year round: Blind Lake, Coleman Reservoir, Cooks, Miller, Oak Creek Reservoir, Upper and LowerBarker reservoirs, Donkey Reservoir, Posey Lake and the Garkane mainimpoundment.

EastFork Boulder Creek,Garfield County

From theconfluence with West Fork Boulder Creek upstream to the headwaters.

• Limit4 trout.

• Bonus limit of 4 brook trout (totallimit of no more than 8 trout if at least 4 are brook trout).



FishLake,Sevier County

· Limit 4 trout

· Only one trout may be over 28 inches,regardless of species

SalinaCity Pond (Sevier County)

· Limit 2 fish regardless of species(Community Fishery)

Thanks for the list of recommendations Drew, looks like some good changes, especially the three hooks per line idea, hope it passes.

Why?? At the time it was the only thing I had to go on, and I thought others would like to know...

Having the dates of the RAC or Wild life meetings in a timely time people can plain ahead if they want to attend..

And one of the best places to get INFO is here on BFT..

I for one cannot find anything on the DWR site like the RAC or wild life meetings when looking..

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Bassrods likes to fish for bass using Mojo lures and Weights, and Parasite Weights.
Practice CPR...Catch, Photograph and Release.
Utah state C&R record 23.5"
Tight lines....

I started putting up posts on the scheduled RAC meetings, agendas and links to the DWR boards where the info was listed...starting a month before the first meeting in September...and then reminders a couple of days before. And then a review of what was covered.

http://www.bigfishtackle.com/...d;page=unread#unread

http://www.bigfishtackle.com/...d;page=unread#unread