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Re: [pontoonman] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
The previous owner "thinks" its a Halkey-Roberts valve. Does this sound right?
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Re: [atvaholic] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
Click on the 3rd picture, and compare with what you have:

http://shop.inflatableboatparts.com/home.php?cat=22

You can probably get a Halkey adapter for less somewhere else if you do a web search.

Pon



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The previous owner "thinks" its a Halkey-Roberts valve. Does this sound right?
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Re: [atvaholic] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
I had these same difficulties first time I inflated mine.

Open valve by pushing on button in center of valve. Each time you push, it goes to either open or closed, so make sure it is in open position.

Use shop vac with 1.25 inch hose adaptor, reverse hose so it blows rather than sucks (Blush), place hose adaptor completely over valve and hard enough to seal, and it should easily inflate to 80% of pressure.

Trick is to quickly remove vac hose and push on valve button so it closes. If you do it right, minimal air escapes.

With valve closed (but not sealed with screw-on cap) use K-Pump or Coleman pump to bring up to 3-4 lbs pressure (toon should be hard, but will deflect a bit when pushed with thumb).

The adaptor is a standard 5/8ths vehicle heater hose (see photo).

Once you get how valve works, it only takes a few minutes to inflate.

P.S. - Just notice FG likewise explained how valves work. Hopefully adaptor hose info is useful.


(This post was edited by kandersonSLC on Feb 22, 2014, 2:03 PM)
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atvaholic wrote:
Seems to be pretty sturdy material! (not sure about the oars though).


I used the aluminum oars for first year -- no problems. You'll spend most of the time "finning" your boat around. Oars are mainly for getting out and back.

If you really get into it, the carbon fiber oars are super light and great for lakes and the Power Stroke oars are heavy duty and great for river running.

I love to row, so I got both (found Power Stroke oars on eBay for $150).
(This post was edited by kandersonSLC on Feb 22, 2014, 2:13 PM)
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Re: [atvaholic] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
atvaholic wrote:
The previous owner "thinks" its a Halkey-Roberts valve. Does this sound right?


Doubtful that they are Halkey Roberts. But, if per chance, then you push in on the center button and twist clockwise to open. Reverse to close. And as in the picture Pontoonman posted. The center will be Yellow and sort of star shaped.
I have the Halkey on my X5 and they are easy to pump in the closed position.
I am sure your problem just stems from not having a piece of hose that not only fits very snug IN the valve but also snug on the end of the pump.
Next question...What Pump are you using?



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Re: [pontoonman] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
There you go, says Bravo, should work.Smile



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Re: [flygoddess] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
Thanks for all the replies.

For the quick inflation I am using this:

http://www.google.ca/...;start=0&ndsp=18

That gets it filled quick, but them I lose air when removing the air tube and closing the valve. So then i try with this:
http://i.walmartimages.com/...82601772_500X500.jpg

That's when the tube pops out. I will try to test it with tape to see if that helps. (it seems to come out at the pump). The center is star shaped, but I looked at some pictures of hakley vs bravo valves on google and they look the same to me.
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Re: [atvaholic] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
Okay, here is Halkey Roberts. The center is yellow post and ruff. You push in and twist to open. Push in and twist opposite to close.
http://www.bing.com/...C774&FORM=IQFRBA

This should be the valve you have though the center button might not be red. It is a push once "open", push once "Close'. Note, the middle LOOKS like a button.
http://shop.inflatableboatparts.com/...mp;cat=22&page=1

Either of those pumps should work. Attach the piece of hose to the largest adapter, and squeeze it into the valve. It should be a very tight fit.
We use an LVM to pump our boats up fast and in the open position. We quickly close them then top them off with a hand pump.
You need that little piece of hose as it is the right size.



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Re: [atvaholic] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
Make it easy for all of us and take some pictures of the valve and post them.
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Re: [mojorizing] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
Not sure if you can tell from this picture. If not I will take it out and take a close up tomorrow:

http://i.ebayimg.com/...MXQVERS9pLp/$_12.JPG
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Re: [atvaholic] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
Ok, here is the close up (click attachment below)
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Re: [atvaholic] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
Good news is, that is a newer boat! Those look like the Bravo 2. Like the Halkey, a push and twist. You still need that little piece of hose or a K-Pump to top it off.



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Re: [flygoddess] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
Here is the Bravo 2 Valve that is on the Predator.

It is a push in and turn clockwise to open, reverse to close.
Here is the 2" chunk of hose

I do not have a pump like yours but it goes on whatever fitting will fit into the hose. If you need to tape it on the pump, so be it.


It is HARD to get it into the valve. Put in boiling water to soften it or put it in the freezer to shrink it, it is tuff, but it does fit. And quite snug.


It is HARD to pump in the closed position, but very doable. Fill as full as you can in open, then quickly close and top off. If you can leave to tube in the Valve and change out the pumps, this would help. Plus you should be able to stick your finger in the tube and twist the valve close. Would loose very little air this way.



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Thanks FG. I will give it a try. Been busy the last few days hope i'll get to try it out next week.
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Re: [flygoddess] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
FlyGoddess,

Regarding 303 Protectant for inflatable boats:

flygoddess wrote:
Get some 303 Protectant, not Armoral. Walmart carries it. Clean the toon with it periodically during the year and remember to hose and soap down the toon after every trip, ...

I bought a Dave Scadden Fishing Kayak with stand up capabilities for sight fishing. It's nice. I used it for 10 plus miles by road (more by Jordan River) for my second use. First use was Lost Creek Reservoir.

I got a rash which was maybe poison ivy, but more mild than if I actually touched the plant. My inflatable kayak went over a lot of aquatic plants in the river. Perhaps some was poison ivy or something similar. Not sure. I deflated it looking clean and rolled it somewhat and put it in my car on my fishing trip camping bedding and later lifted it with the bottom material against my face and the arms and chest of my shirt. I got the rash slowly over the next few days. I washed all of my camping bedding and supplies. Today I'm scrubbing my kayak with Dawn dish detergent and hosing it off and everything that went on the trip.

There are some other possibilities for the rash. Does the Jordan River have swimmers itch or algal bloom or maybe just traces of poison ivy from all the leaves that blow into the water (I got splashes from using the paddles and was sitting in some of the Jordan River water)?

But, the main reason I'm replying to your post is I have a gallon of 303 Protectant and figured it would be good to increase the life of my Dave Scadden Fishing Kayak by preserving toughness and flexibility of the material and blocking UV rays from the sun, so I searched and found your post. You used it way back in 2014 and earlier, so I'd like to know if you think 303 Protectant has done well for you on your Dave Scadden inflatables.

Ronald :)



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(This post was edited by RonPaulFan on Jul 28, 2019, 5:25 PM)
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Re: [RonPaulFan] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
The 303 Protectant is very good. I highly recommend it. I think I learned about it from Flygoddess. I clean my Renegade with 303 cleaner, then use the 303 Protectant. I've done this for about 5 years. It's been a great product.
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Thanks, jmach!

I just came in from applying 303 Protectant all over my Kayak and it's components with the intention that it gives it a longer life. Do you think it makes a big difference?

I'm new to it, but have been hearing very good things about it. I initially bought it for the door and other seals on my car which would be very expensive to replace. They're like new now, so an application of 303 Protectant might make them last long and save me a lot of money and trouble.

I've never used 303 cleaner. I wouldn't see dirt on the Kayak anyway because it's camouflage and the poison ivy toxin is invisible, so I used Dawn dish detergent for it's grease cutting ability which is needed to remove similarly hard to remove poison ivy. I rubbed it making a lot of suds and sprayed it off on the lawn with the hose. I suppose Dawn is harsh, but the 303 Protectant probably put back what it needs and more. I made sure to rinse it well.

I'm glad that's over. I still have some bags of clothes I wore to soak in detergent in buckets before I wash them, but I have plenty of clothes and only one kayak.

Ronald :)



Let's go fishing! I prefer to fish with others. I'm well equipped with plenty to share and have a vehicle with amazing off road and winter driving capabilities to get us to even hard to reach fishing and ice fishing destinations. Let's team up! Private Message me to suggest I come to where you're fishing or plan a trip with me!

Who here is a surf fisherman? That's my next big vacation. I've already purchased top equipment for surf fishing. I'm looking to hire a guide or go with someone experienced.

Date proposal to single young BFT fisherladies with courage enough to put a worm on a hook: Saturday, December 7: Join me as my date at my company Christmas Party, meet my friends of many years, enjoy an amazing dinner at our table as we watch a wonderful Christmas play. I can pick you up or meet you there.
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Re: [RonPaulFan] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
Yes. I still swear by and use 303 on all my boats. Sorry about the itch. I know the discomfort it causes.



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Re: [flygoddess] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
Thanks, FlyGoddess!

Have you noticed other inflatables owned by others that have not been treated getting old faster perhaps even with being used less?

Do you have anything to compare to know the difference between treated and untreated?

I hear amazing stories, but haven't seen anything on it myself.

Ronald :)
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Re: [RonPaulFan] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
I don't, but my boats from 2001 look new.



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Re: [RonPaulFan] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
I have been using the 303 for several years...since FG first recommended it. It really helps maintain the color and suppleness of the covers.


I also use it on the vinyl cover for my backyard spa and it has worked well there too.


I have seen plenty of other tubes and toons on the water that looked much older than they were because their owners had neglected their craft.



But that stuff makes a lousy margarita.

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Re: [TubeDude] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
Thanks, TubeDude!

Good to know I made a good choice to also use it for my Dave Scadden fishing kayak. I bought it for my car seals because I heard it really makes them keep working and last. Back then I searched the internet and found someone using it on serpentine belts on a YouTube video with giving it a longer life that seemed amazing ...

https://www.youtube.com/...ace+protectant+belt+

... and there is another set on using it on tires.

After seeing my door seals seem to be like new and with all of these videos on amazing claims, I figure it must be good.

Now with the credibility of FlyGoddess and TubeDude giving favorable reports, I'm glad I bought the gallon size and will put it on everything it can make last longer.

Ronald :)



Let's go fishing! I prefer to fish with others. I'm well equipped with plenty to share and have a vehicle with amazing off road and winter driving capabilities to get us to even hard to reach fishing and ice fishing destinations. Let's team up! Private Message me to suggest I come to where you're fishing or plan a trip with me!

Who here is a surf fisherman? That's my next big vacation. I've already purchased top equipment for surf fishing. I'm looking to hire a guide or go with someone experienced.

Date proposal to single young BFT fisherladies with courage enough to put a worm on a hook: Saturday, December 7: Join me as my date at my company Christmas Party, meet my friends of many years, enjoy an amazing dinner at our table as we watch a wonderful Christmas play. I can pick you up or meet you there.
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Re: [flygoddess] Need New Powered 'Toon In reply to
I second flygoddess, I have a Scadden Skykomish Sunrise with a 4 HP Outboard and I love it. I want to buy the frameless assault it can handle a gas motor but can also fit into a airline specific bag and I can travel with it.

Thanks

Randy

"The only bad day fishing is the day you don't go"
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I bought my hubby the Detonator XL last year, this year I decided I wanted one as well. I still love the fuzion, but with the frame it is a little heavy for long hikes.
The Detonator Lo Pro XL is an awesome boat. The hard drop stitch floor he uses on the SUPs and Fuzion is perfect. Then the smaller diameter toons and built in motor mount is great. Lots of room behind the seat. I also went with the hard molded seat. I can fish for hours on this boat, however the motor is placed a little reach. Could be a bit taxing trying to pull start a gas motor and not sure on the going forward thing. I have the 40 MAX electric motor and can get about 10 hours.
Oh and the boat folds down but not super small. Will fit in a 36" duffel though I think.



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