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Cattle a problem for elk?
Before you read please note I do not oppose elk hunting nor deer hunting so please dont take offense.

I have found some intersting sites which point out the devastating effects of cattle overgrazing:

Fact: In Arizona there are 70 endangered species of animals because of cattle grazing.

Mule deer were nearly wiped out in the west because of over grazing.

Here is something intersting I got off of a website:

Livestock Grazing Impacts on Hunting


Domestic livestock grazing reduces wildlife populations by competing for food, water, and space, and degrading habitat. Habitat degradation caused by grazing also exposes prey species to increased predation (due to lost vegetative cover for concealment and escape), resulting in further declines in those populations. The vast majority of forage and water resources in the West are devoted to domestic livestock grazing, depriving hunters and fishers of what could be incredible sporting opportunities. Ironically, despite the preference it receives, livestock grazing provides less economic benefit to local, regional and national economies than does the presence of wildlife. Economic studies comparing grazing to hunting/fishing/watching/photographing elk, deer, trout, waterfowl, wolves and songbirds demonstrate that native wildlife has a higher economic value than producing livestock from the same natural resources (Duffield, et al.1994, Campbell 1970, Loomis, et al. 1989, Duffield 1989).

Range resources in the arid West are finite and the past and present practice of allocating the majority of forage, water, and space to cattle and sheep on public lands has seriously affected the carrying capacity for native species (Wuerthner 1992). Every blade of grass consumed by domestic livestock is unavailable to wild herbivores. For example, a study of antelope and domestic livestock in New Mexico showed that pronghorn diets over-lapped 39 percent with domestic sheep and 16 percent with cattle (Howard, et al. 1990). Another study reported forage competition between deer, elk and livestock in Montana's Missouri Breaks (Mackie 1970). Similar findings of dietary overlap of deer and elk with domestic livestock were reported in Oregon (Miller and Vavra 1982) and Alberta (Teller 1994).

The mere presence of domestic livestock also causes a shift in habitat use by native species, often relegating native ungulates to less suitable habitats with a resulting decline in vigor and survival. For example, mule deer have been discovered to shift their habitat use in response to livestock grazing (Lott, et al. 1991). Elk in Montana have also moved away from pastures that were actively grazed by cattle (Frisina 1992), and elk and mule deer in Arizona have declined after cattle were introduced to pastures (Wallace and Krausman 1987). Both deer and elk vacated preferred habitats after livestock were introduced into areas in Alberta (Teller 1994).

Disease transmission from domestic livestock to wildlife is yet another problem. Many bighorn sheep herds in the West are decimated by disease transmitted from domestic livestock (Goodson 1982, Berger 1990, Krausman, et al. 1996). Indeed, the presence of domestic sheep in bighorn range is often the only factor that precludes the restoration of wild sheep to many former and otherwise suitable habitats throughout the West.

Many gamebirds are also negatively affected by livestock grazing. Sage grouse populations are declining throughout the West due to a host of problems created by livestock production (Connelly, et. al. 2000). The loss of hiding cover in heavily grazed rangelands exposes nesting grouse and other species like quail and sandhill crane to higher predation rates (Gregg et. al 1994, Brown 1982, Littlefield and Paullin 1990). Grazing on wet meadows used by sage grouse chicks reduces food availability and increases losses to predators. Fences used to contain livestock become perching sites for avian raptors that prey on grouse. Haying operations negatively impact many ground nesting bird species (Kirsh, et al. 1978). Waterfowl production also suffers as a result of grazing and haying operations that reduce hiding cover, resulting in higher nest failures (Greenwood, et. al. 1988, Gilbert, et al. 1992).

Hunters, fishers, and other lovers of wildlife have good reason to support the removal of domestic livestock from public lands. As livestock numbers are reduced, hunting, fishing, and wildlife watching opportunities will increase, as well as the quality of the experience.

This may sem like an opinion. But I agree.

It makes no sense to have broad scale cattle grazing any longer.

Elk would do much better without the interference of cattle.

Sure would raise beef prices......oh well with all the hormones they put in beef we would all be healthier.
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there is no doubt that over grazing is a problem, not only to natural wild life but to the stability of top soil and ground water preservation.

But when you think about over grazing, the human cow out dose the cow by a long shot with its urbanization... Same problems, different senario...

Thats what we call a double wammie to our environment... combined this causes the earths crust to not cool down as it would when there is natural ground cover to block the reflection of light from the ground back to the ozone.

they talk about the oceans rising, but they fail to tell the whole story, as the earths crust worms up, it begins to sink... Dont take my word for this, take out your gps and go out to the same place once a week for the next two years and see if you dont see a differance in altitude. It wont be much, but you will see it none the less.

this happend at least once before in earth history, several times in north american histroy. The Killer whale was once a 4 legged dog/wolf like creature whos habitat went from dry land to water covered to sea.

In gods great wisdom, he sent his only begatten son to earth with a message, "we have a choice" We only need to choose.

wich means we need to become more of a civil society than an economicly preditorial society... Just an opinion.. But I could be right.Crazy




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