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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I guess it depends on how much gear you are going to take but in that one pic it looks like you could sit in the sled and carry all your gear in the same sled. I guess it all depends on how much gear you plan on taking. I will say I take more gear now days than I need but if I only took a couple of rods, a fish finder, tackle, an auger and a ice scoop, I'm pretty sure I could get it all in one of those sleds. Now whether the snowdog could pull me and two other guys that's another issue all together.Wink


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Re: [wiperhunter2] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I did a show with KSL Outdoors end of March last year and there was 4-5” of slush on the ice and no snow as it had rained the night before. Didn’t have any issues.
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Re: [k2muskie] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Kim is correct about the need for scratchers on glare ice.
If you dont have scratchers dish soap works also.
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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Kent,
Not sure if it is still on KSL still but last week there was a Yamaha Bravo Trapper Special in very good shape.
This machine was designed for trappers and people hauling materials in to extreme snow environments. Super long track, lightweight, not sure of reverse.
In Canada that machine would not last 10 minutes of being on sale after advertising.
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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I have a Can Am 1000 cc with the Can Am Apache tracks. The Can Am's are built to run with tracks. I did have a bad day back in 2014. Here is the link to that thread - FYI:

http://www.bigfishtackle.com/...h_string=ATV;#865325

I love fishing with my tracked ATV. However, if you get them stuck in the slush, you are in a heap of big trouble. I wish I could find a photo, can't seem to find one at the moment.

When I started to look for a tracked ATV, I talked with a few folks that had them. Everyone said to get 800 cc as a minimum & I agree. I have a friend that owns a Honda with 700 cc's and he does seem to bog down more than I do. As I mentioned in the thread above, I can travel through 6-inches of slush with no problem. Any more than that, and I will turn around.

The Can Am's have adjustable power steering to use with the tracks and a chip that adjusts your speedometer & odometer accordingly. You won't travel as fast as a sled; however, I go as fast as I want. Any faster & it will be too cold for me. I highly recommend the Can Am.

In addition, I've towed a few sleds off the ice, never towed a tracked ATV.


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Re: [wiperhunter2] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
They are geared for low end torque and pulling. They are rated to pull 660+ pounds on dry ground. On the snow/ice I would say closer to 700-1000 pounds.
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OCF wrote:
I have a Can Am 1000 cc with the Can Am Apache tracks. The Can Am's are built to run with tracks. I did have a bad day back in 2014.
I called Camso Track Systems (after market tracks for ATVs) a few weeks back and the rep I talked to recommended the CanAm's as the top of the chain for track systems. His own machine was a CanAm. The companies second choice is the Grizzly.


If I decide for next year to go that route (tracked quad), it will be a CanAm 2-up quad. Not sure at this point. In the past 8 years, I've only been stuck in slush twice with my sled; once on Pineview and once on Cascade. Good thing I wasn't fishing alone either time. Cool


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Re: [dubob] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I don't care what you are running always good to have a 2nd machine with you


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Re: [PACKFAN] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
That’s exactly why when ice fishing you go with others. No matter with or without machines. Plus carrying basic tools along with tow straps. Including if towing a sled remove the belt


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Re: [travismadden] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
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I did a show with KSL Outdoors end of March last year and there was 4-5” of slush on the ice and no snow as it had rained the night before. Didn’t have any issues.
So how would it handle the slush with 4-5" of snow on top of it? I'm just wondering at what point it is too much and there would be a likelihood of getting it stuck?


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Re: [6x7] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
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Much smaller. Two models (compact and standard)

Mine (compact) is 50”L/24”W/30”H

Wow, that is pretty small, sounds like you could get two of them in the back of a truck bed.
Have you been out enough with yours to get it stuck yet? Just wondering how hard they are to get them out.


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Re: [wiperhunter2] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Havent had it in that situation personally so hard to say. Every situation is different depending on snow situation, how heavy of a load you are carrying, how many sleds you are towing, etc. lots of varying factors. The heaviest model weighs in at 340 pounds so pretty light when compared to a snowmobile.
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6x7 wrote:
Much smaller. Two models (compact and standard)

Mine (compact) is 50”L/24”W/30”H

Wow, that is pretty small, sounds like you could get two of them in the back of a truck bed.
Have you been out enough with yours to get it stuck yet? Just wondering how hard they are to get them out.

You can get 2 of them side by side in the bed of a full size pickup or a machine and your sled and gear next to it. I have had mine stuck 2 times. Once in about a 3 foot snow drift on the lake and i just stepped out, moved the back end over gave it some gas and right back moving again. The second time i hit some powder with slush underneath. Again stepped out buddy pulled the front i gave it some gas and out it came. Wasnt stuck longer then about 3 minutes both times.
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Re: [dubob] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Bob, did you get stuck on the move or when you stopped? Another lesson we learned be mindful of where you stop and if it’s a slush field don’t stop. The 2 times for us we got stuck was because I stopped in the wrong area. 10 years and thankfully never stuck on the move only when I stopped.

Also if with others lift machine will be heavy and pull it to either side of where one got stuck. Don’t get on machine but start and walk it out including unhook and tow behinds. More lessons learned enjoying ice fishing. Smile


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Skunked, we never get skunked its the fish getting skunked as they just kept missing our lures.
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Re: [k2muskie] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
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Bob, did you get stuck on the move or when you stopped?
Stopped both times. In both cases, didn't realize the slush under the snow was there because I hadn't broken through the snow while moving. After the stop, I gunned the throttle and because of the weight I was pulling, the track just dug straight down into the slush and I was dead in the water. Lucky I was with others and we got it going again in short order. I had to disconnect the pulled sled in both cases to get out and hand pull it to a slush free spot before reattaching. Sometimes you don't know the slush is there until its too late. Shocked

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Re: [dubob] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Wherever I think I am going to stop for any reason I drive right over the spot,make a big circle, and then come back and park on my old track.
Never been stuck using this method.
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Re: [dwayneb] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I have been trying to find an electric start for me Polaris 700 . It's a 2003 Vertical Edge . Do you know where I can get one . I have been looking with no luck .
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Re: [k2muskie] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
I made the plunge and purchased a snowmobile today:

2014 Ski-Doo Skandic WT550F

Electric and manual start
Reverse
Wide track (154"X20"X1.5")
4246 Miles on odometer


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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Nice sled you will be happy with the sled . The reverse is great to have electric start is nice . aswell you get stuck on a sled it's your fault. So be wise and if it looks sketchy it probley is . Congratulations on your new sled
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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Congrats Kent, that machine is a workhorse.
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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Congrats and enjoy and have lots of adventures. Glad I along with others helped in your purchase great machine and call me jealous. Let us know how it all goes.


Location: Lake Katchabigun

Once you know everything about anything its what you learn afterwards that counts.

Skunked, we never get skunked its the fish getting skunked as they just kept missing our lures.
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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Ski-doo makes a good machine, My dad is 92 and has ridden nothing but Ski-doo for the past 50 some years. He doesn't get out as much as he use to but still rides out from his cabin in Northern Wis. to ice fish on occasion.


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Re: [k2muskie] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Carry all that with me as well as a cell phone. Great storage space in my machine. Good luck to you guys at Cascade, be careful.


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Re: [kentofnsl] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Congrats Kent hope you enjoy your new ride --

ONE thing I suggest is running the ethanol free gas that they sell at Maverick - you will not be sorry.

Also when you get ready to summarize your sled I can help you as I have learned a few things that will make your start-up next year go smooth.

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Re: [Lundman] Snowmobile vs ATV with tracks for ice fishing? In reply to
Lundman wrote:
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Also when you get ready to summarize your sled I can help you as I have learned a few things that will make your start-up next year go smooth.

Thanks Craig, I appreciate that and will gladly take you up on your gracious offer.


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