Stay Safe Stay Home

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OK, so now the latest is that Utah will not peak until April 24th?  Can you provide a valid source for that information?

We will not be clear until the third week of June to July 14th?  Again, can you provide a source?

The US will not peak for two weeks?  Source?

Some Eastern States are releasing hardened criminals from jail and prison, but WILL arrest anyone that does not follow the "Stay at Home" orders?

Along with releasing hardened criminals, including a really hard one in Washington State, many states are making it impossible to buy self protection weapons?  That is an area of discussion that could eat up pages and pages of discussion and really isn't relevant on a large scale.  Most folks that desire firearms for self protection already have them so the directives establishing TEMPORARY restrictions on additional purchases aren't depriving the folks that desire the means of self protection; they already have it for the most part - IMHO.

Are these questions, or are they tonights news reports?  To the best of my knowledge, I would say they are just questions since I haven't seen any of them being touted on the news that I watch.

I wonder, in the "Star Wars" fiction, how long was it before they decided that it was not a good idea to give all power to the government?

Is there a point in time when we ..........?

My father is 84 years old, I am not all that sure that he wants to spend what may be the last year of his life locked inside a prison.  The prison may not have bars, at least until Utah says they will lock us up for not staying inside, but a prison nonetheless.  None of the current Utah Directive (as of 7 AM this morning) issued by Governor Herbert on March 27 makes it MANDATORY that an individual stay inside his home.  There are suggestions, guidelines, and recommendations for all of us to consider.  Law enforcement isn't setting up check points.  The State's National Guard hasn't been called up or deployed.  We are all free to make wise decisions about our safety and the safety of our loved ones as to what is essential in our lives.  The Directive also gives us enough knowledge about safety precautions to help us make those wise decisions.  I think that saying we are prisoners in our own homes is unrealistic.

How many of us want to spend the next few months, potentially years (took over three for the Spanish flu) in prison?  Really?  You're going to compare a pandemic that occurred 100 years ago with today's crisis?  With all of the advances in technology and medicine in the last 100 years, you think it is likely that we will suffer the same fate as the world did in 1920?  I'm sorry - I'm not buying it for a micro-second.  That isn't even apples and oranges - more like apples and space ships.  It just ain't hapnin.

Stay safe, but be smart.  I hope that this provides some perspective on what is happening.  In no way do I belittle the danger of the Virus, but we would be fools to belittle the potential danger of government taking all of our rights.  Once the precedence is set, it will happen again, and again.  We agree that this pandemic is a very serious one and none of us should take it lightly.  The latest projections for the total death toll, as of this morning, is somewhere between 100,000 and 240,000 in the USA.  We each need to do our part in helping to curtail the spread as much as possible.

My purpose in answering your post is NOT to belittle you in any way, shape, or form.  I'm sure your concerns are real to you.  I don't share the same concerns and wanted to present an alternate view of the situation for yours and other BFT members consideration.  I respect your right to have and present your concerns for our consideration.  That's just one of the things that I love about being a US Citizen.  Please continue to participate in this discussion.  We can all learn from it and I am always willing to increase my knowledge with facts and valid data.  That is what allows me to make informed decisions and occasionally admit that my original take on a situation was incorrect.  Tight lines to you, and I hope you can get some quality time with your Dad soon.  

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Here is one morons perspective. These one size fits all rules and generalizations get us nowhere!!! What New York needs isn't what will be needed in Boise Idaho. What needs to happen in SLC doesn't need to happen in Callao Utah. I live and ranch in a very remote part of our state. I HAVE to be out and about to care for my Livestock. I make a weekly trip into civilization to pick up supplies for elderly neighbors. My family is used to shopping once a month so our grocery needs are minimal. But some of my older neighbors MUST have prescriptions and things. Delivery simply isn't an option. I take as many precautions as I can. I wash my hands 100 times a day. I use hand sanitizer. I avoid crowds and maintain social distancing. But I WILL not watch my neighbors go without or suffer. How is this any different than avoiding someone with the flu or pneumonia??? I understand that we don't know who has it and has been exposed and we do not have a vaccine. But if folks need medicine and can't get it, that's a death sentence too. No wonder the extreme death rates and transmission rates are in huge cities. People live in tiny spaces and are jammed together like ants. It will run rampant through those populations. And yet the CDC data still shows only 8% have to receive medical help. 92% don't even go to the doctor. AND RECOVER! We have to protect the venerable members of our population. Folks who have lessened immune systems and the elderly. But government over reach and stupidly usually makes problems much worse, i.e. Katrina. If people used common sense we wouldn't need the feds or state to mandate broad rules that only fit a few of its citizens. I hope you all stay healthy and are able to come out the other side of this fine. Please learn from this. Be better prepared for the next one, because it will happen. We all need to live within our means, plan the best we can for the unknown and make preparations to care for ourselves and families in trying times. God Blesss and happy trails.

I see absolutely NOTHING in your post that would lead me to believe you are one of the morons I was referring to.  Every activity you described can be participated in within the guidelines of the March 27th Directive issued by the Governor.  Everything you talked about can be done safely and with minimal impact on your neighbors.  The morons are those that know what the safe way of doing something is, and doing it in an unsafe manner such that they are putting themselves and others in harms way.  Do you still want to classify yourself as one of the morons I was talking about?  I thought not.  

I've been reading your posts for several years now and have found nothing in them that would lead me to believe that you are a moron.  I haven't agreed with you on a few points in the past, but I find your posts insightful, informative, and intelligently thought out.  Keep up the good work helping out your neighbors in a safe manner.  I'm sure that you are not doing anything that will endanger their well being needlessly.