05-23-2016, 06:41 PM
"Actually there is a things being taken to the dump daily that could be utilized."
[#0000FF]That statement was the basis for my remark on "junk". But I fully agree that structure can be important.
How much have you fished Jordanelle? If you really know the lake you will know that there is probably no other water in Utah that has so much structure already. They left a lot of scrub oak and other growth in the lake when they flooded it. Consequently, there are ABUNDANT snags on the bottom in all parts of the lake...even at its deepest point. Trout trollers and bassers...as well as ice anglers...all have their stories about the megabucks worth of tackle they donate to the bottom structure of Jordanelle.
Proven tactics in other states are not typically a basis for making good management decisions for Utah. If that were the case we would have seen some "forage augmentation" planting of forage species for the fish in Jordanelle. Instead, all fish still have to rely on perch fry as their sole source of food...and the perch population took a big hit about 6 years ago and all species have suffered since. There is only a smattering of crawdads in Jordanelle. Not enough to feed the hungry hordes of smallies.
There are no chubs left. At one time there were wall to wall chubs and the smallies grew to 8#. The smallies and perch ganged up on the chubs and they are gone. There is no other forage species in Jordanelle. In other states they routinely plant fish food as well as maintaining gamefish numbers. But everytime suggests planting the native food source (chubs) in Utah everyone in DWR rolls their eyes and go into seizures. Plant chubs? In trout waters? Heresy. Even if there were not rainbows in Jordanelle it is doubtful we would get chubs planted.
Sorry. Not trying to denigrate your suggestions. Structure is not the problem. It is too many mouths and not enough food.
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[#0000FF]That statement was the basis for my remark on "junk". But I fully agree that structure can be important.
How much have you fished Jordanelle? If you really know the lake you will know that there is probably no other water in Utah that has so much structure already. They left a lot of scrub oak and other growth in the lake when they flooded it. Consequently, there are ABUNDANT snags on the bottom in all parts of the lake...even at its deepest point. Trout trollers and bassers...as well as ice anglers...all have their stories about the megabucks worth of tackle they donate to the bottom structure of Jordanelle.
Proven tactics in other states are not typically a basis for making good management decisions for Utah. If that were the case we would have seen some "forage augmentation" planting of forage species for the fish in Jordanelle. Instead, all fish still have to rely on perch fry as their sole source of food...and the perch population took a big hit about 6 years ago and all species have suffered since. There is only a smattering of crawdads in Jordanelle. Not enough to feed the hungry hordes of smallies.
There are no chubs left. At one time there were wall to wall chubs and the smallies grew to 8#. The smallies and perch ganged up on the chubs and they are gone. There is no other forage species in Jordanelle. In other states they routinely plant fish food as well as maintaining gamefish numbers. But everytime suggests planting the native food source (chubs) in Utah everyone in DWR rolls their eyes and go into seizures. Plant chubs? In trout waters? Heresy. Even if there were not rainbows in Jordanelle it is doubtful we would get chubs planted.
Sorry. Not trying to denigrate your suggestions. Structure is not the problem. It is too many mouths and not enough food.
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