05-31-2016, 03:51 AM
Boy, leave you guys alone for a week and you go nuts !! Had to take time off to check out Powell, fantastic.
So, after reading all the new posts on the subject, it seems that Perch are bad news for SMB, that they cannot do well to gether ( check out Western basin of Lake Erie, considered the BEST SMB fishery in the country). So if perch are not compatible, what forage species do we use ??? We are very limited as to what we can use, due to climate, Endangered species issues, disease, etc. Some smart person somewhere needs to come up with the answer to that. I have over the years made several suggestions, all of which have been ignored. I suggested Gizzard shad for Utah Lake back in 1972 or 3 in a term paper. A copy was sent to SLC, nothing. In the early 80's our BASS Club, High Country Bass Masters suggested trapping chubs at Strawberry and moving them the Ut. Lake. we even built a trap that was able to be slipped into the tanks on the barge up there. Charlie Thompson, the Central region biologist tried it out, it worked, but the hoist on the barge could not lift the trap when it was full, to heavy. I don't believe that SLC was open to the suggestion either !! Not Jordanelle, but Charlie tried Japanese Pond Smelt, Spottailed Shiners, Fathead minnows, and several other species in Utah Lake, none thrived in the main lake. Fatheads can still be found in some of the tributaries, but not is great numbers. So, who is the smart person that can come up with a solution here !!
2 ) I remember several years back when Newcastle and Enterprise were being overrun with crayfish. They were impacting the growth of the trout that were being planted and it was a major topic of discussion for several years at the fall fisheries mtg. Eventually SMB were introduced and nothing more was heard till the Golden Shiners showed up and took over the lake. Now Wipers are the answer. Tiger Musky in Pineview were stocked to control the crappie and perch, and we are using sterile walleye in other waters. So is the answer to the problem to stock sterile species and go to a put and take fishery ??? VERY expensive !!
3) I have been doing my part on both Deer Creek and Jordanelle over the past 6-8 years. I keep a limit of 8-10 inch SMB when I fish them. Would a more liberal limit on the smaller SMB be helpful ??
4) Final question, what can I, as a Utah angler, do to help improve the situation on Jordanelle ( and Deer Creek ) ??
So, after reading all the new posts on the subject, it seems that Perch are bad news for SMB, that they cannot do well to gether ( check out Western basin of Lake Erie, considered the BEST SMB fishery in the country). So if perch are not compatible, what forage species do we use ??? We are very limited as to what we can use, due to climate, Endangered species issues, disease, etc. Some smart person somewhere needs to come up with the answer to that. I have over the years made several suggestions, all of which have been ignored. I suggested Gizzard shad for Utah Lake back in 1972 or 3 in a term paper. A copy was sent to SLC, nothing. In the early 80's our BASS Club, High Country Bass Masters suggested trapping chubs at Strawberry and moving them the Ut. Lake. we even built a trap that was able to be slipped into the tanks on the barge up there. Charlie Thompson, the Central region biologist tried it out, it worked, but the hoist on the barge could not lift the trap when it was full, to heavy. I don't believe that SLC was open to the suggestion either !! Not Jordanelle, but Charlie tried Japanese Pond Smelt, Spottailed Shiners, Fathead minnows, and several other species in Utah Lake, none thrived in the main lake. Fatheads can still be found in some of the tributaries, but not is great numbers. So, who is the smart person that can come up with a solution here !!
2 ) I remember several years back when Newcastle and Enterprise were being overrun with crayfish. They were impacting the growth of the trout that were being planted and it was a major topic of discussion for several years at the fall fisheries mtg. Eventually SMB were introduced and nothing more was heard till the Golden Shiners showed up and took over the lake. Now Wipers are the answer. Tiger Musky in Pineview were stocked to control the crappie and perch, and we are using sterile walleye in other waters. So is the answer to the problem to stock sterile species and go to a put and take fishery ??? VERY expensive !!
3) I have been doing my part on both Deer Creek and Jordanelle over the past 6-8 years. I keep a limit of 8-10 inch SMB when I fish them. Would a more liberal limit on the smaller SMB be helpful ??
4) Final question, what can I, as a Utah angler, do to help improve the situation on Jordanelle ( and Deer Creek ) ??