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twoindyhicks · 05-15-2002, 05:37 PM

Boys Get In Trouble For Playing With Finger Guns 4th Graders' Game Of Army Vs. Aliens Violated School's Zer- Tolerance Policy Updated: 6:03 p.m. MDT May 14, 2002 DENVER -- Seven fourth graders in the Cherry Creek School District were given detention for a week after they were caught using their fingers as imaginary weapons, a newspaper reported Monday. The incident took place March 25 at Dry Creek Elementary School, 7NEWS reported. The boys were playing soldiers-versus-aliens during lunch when a playground monitor pulled them all aside and brought them to the principal's office because they displayed violent and aggressive behavior during the game, said Mary Terch, executive director of elementary education for Cherry Creek Schools. Principal Darci Mickle said that what the boys did, even though it may have been horseplay, violated the school's zero tolerance policy. She called all of their parents to pick them up early from school and gave them lunchtime detention for the week after they returned from spring break, the Times reported. SURVEY Did an elementary school go too far with its zero tolerance policy when it suspended fourth graders for using their fingers as imaginary weapons? Yes. The boys did nothing wrong. No. Zero tolerance means no tolerance for any type of violent behavior. I don't know. I wasn't there at the school so I don't know how they behaved. Results | Disclaimer The boys' parents said the incident is an example of post-Columbine zero-tolerance run amok. They are also furious that she asked the boys if their families kept guns at home. Charles Andrew, the father of one of the boys, said Mickle's line of questioning violated the family's private lives. "It's none of her business," he told the paper. "If she wants to know that, she needs to ask me, not Connor." The school district stands behind the principal's action.

johnincolorado · 05-17-2002, 12:38 PM

Enough about gun control, back to backlash control or something related to fishing. Surprisingly, I have had good response from state wildlife agencies regarding handi-capped access to fishing. A few have/are sending me more info. I even found a handiangler web site located in Oregon. Another light bulb went off over my head. I remember sitting on a fishing barge in Texas, in a comfortable chair with heat in the winter, cool in the summer, bait sold right there and interesting conversation. Even a color TV to watch the Dallas Cowboys. I think I even met one of my now ex-wives on one but that's another story in itself. I was wondering, just what is the requirements for one? legal and otherwise. Does other states have them? If so, what lakes? Someone satisfy my curiosity, please.

twoindyhicks · 05-17-2002, 10:00 PM

Yup you guys are right that does not have anything to do with fishing or even gun control. Lets see what were these boys useing. their fingers which were imaginary phazers shooting at imaginary aliens. So the weapons that they brought to school were their hands. And yes I am against guns, bombs, Knives, and DRUGS in the schools. Now what I really see here is a form of mind control, controlling the imagination is mind control. If they control the mind then they can make children believe that hunting and fishing are wrong. And they (teachers) are teaching children that everyday and in everyway. My granddaughters come home all of the time talking about how its wrong to fish because if you fish you increase the amount of mosqeetos by eating fish. Mosqeetos only grow in lakes and streams. I guess that is where my tie to fishing comes in.

davetclown · 05-18-2002, 05:54 AM

this week in detroit three forth graders were suspended for a week for playing army in the play ground using their hands and fingers for play guns. lets get real, peoples rights of speach and expresion have gone to firey place below. WE HAVE NOW STEPED IN TO THE TWILITE ZONE natures law #3 when a specieas becomes over populated they will kill each other off. man is nothing more than an animal with the choice to behave like animals or not. so far animalistic behavure rules.[frown] <A HREF="http://myweb.ecomplanet.com/MESS6438/" target="_new">http://myweb.ecomplanet.com/MESS6438/</A> Lookie See what the kids are up to. Dave T. Clown

johnincolorado · 05-18-2002, 01:58 PM

I had promised myself not to comment of this subject again but, oh, that makes me mad. Besides busting a couple of kids for playing (isn't that what recess is for?), you made a good point about using schools to brainwash kids that hunting and fishing is wrong. One one hand, the states make millions of dollars each year from licenses and taxes while on the other, they give our money to schools to teach such things. The NRA funds programs to teach kids about conservation, why can fishermen do the same? Too bad there isn't a nationwide organization we can join, and support, to teach the good points of fishing. Maybe we can start at the state level. I have a t-shirt that my youngest daughter gave me for a birthday (I'm not saying which one) that simply states, "I'm not a hunter but a wildlife population control specialist". She also gave me a hat, "Born to fish, forced to work". These same people who call me a murderer, like PETA advocates, shop for their fish in supermarkets and pay $4.50 a pound for farm raised trout and catfish. They never had the thrill of battling a fish on a tight line. Of course they haven't experienced the excitement of finding a perfectly good second hook in its guts either. So who is the winner and who is the loser?

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