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06-16-2001, 11:00 PM

Just thought I would post an image of a hot saltwater hook that we have come across. Japanese made, stainless steel, HD forged and cone cut so they are razor sharp. Nice short shaft for live baiting or on the back of jigs or lures to reduce short takes. <A HREF="http://www.demonjigs.com/images/maruto.jpg" target="_new">http://www.demonjigs.com/images/maruto.jpg</A> The one on the image is a 10/0... What you think of em? Burnin Thumbs! Steve - The MJB BFT Lures/Baits <A HREF="http://www.demonjigs.com" target="_new">http://www.demonjigs.com</A>

troutman · 06-17-2001, 12:43 AM

Steve, maybe I should order a few of those before you send me those hot lures? -- Jeff Jost troutman = half trout / half man

06-17-2001, 06:27 AM

I can never tell by looking at a picture, I have orderd hooks before & been disappointed. I like to hold those kina thing first….maybe just me. The hook in the picture does look good, who makes them? [ Smile

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06-17-2001, 07:15 AM

I could not agree more Dan... There is often a need for a close look and I like to hold them up close too. Just a bit difficult this far away. I simply posted them out of interest given that we are now using them in a number of lures and on the back of jigs as single hooks from 6/0 upwards. Thought folks might like to see something different and know that they are also good value for money (IHMO). These hooks are Maruto's and you may have heard me mention them over on the other board. What are you using up there at the moment? In (larger) skirted lures e.g. 8" upwards, I like them because the front hook shaft sits right up near (or inside) the head and then the offset hook back in the tail. I like that kind of coverage in a skirted lure. Burnin Thumbs! Steve - The MJB BFT Lures/Baits <A HREF="http://www.demonjigs.com" target="_new">http://www.demonjigs.com</A>

06-17-2001, 08:57 AM

Ya might think this funny…but… I don’t know what kind I use for bait…[shocked] The shop down the road has them in jars, I guess they would tell me if I asked, or even looked, it might say on the jar. With my trolling lures, I use the Mustad Southern Tuna Hooks, Stainless. Different sizes for different size lures, often, on smaller than 7 inch lures, one hook as big as I can get in the lure without it being too big & heavy for the lure. I might have it rigged so the bend sits rite at the end of skirts. I’ll sometimes trim the skirts shorter. I’ll seldom go with smaller than a 7/0 hook for trolling. On my 3 inch & smaller lures, I’ll put a Single hook with a long shank, I’ll often be thinking of rigging the small tuna they catch so the long shank might put the hook in the corner on mouth more & make for a less bloody bait. Depends…? [ Smile

] ALOHA [cool] Dan Stand Up!!! <A HREF="http://www.fishingkauai.com" target="_new"> Stand Up Fish`N Charters Kauai Hawai </A> [ Wink

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06-27-2001, 02:18 AM

Jeff What do you think of those SS Maruto's that you bought. Are those cone cut barbs "razor sharp" or what? Enough to make my eyes water just thinking about them. FYI, were putting them on the rear of our "glow in the dark" iron jigs as standard now. The hook of choice I decided and think they are not only tough, but the shorter shank means better hook up rates IMO. <A HREF="http://www.outdoorcart.com/demon/ridgeback.htm" target="_new">http://www.outdoorcart.com/demon/ridgeback.htm</A> Not only that, it means more burnin thumbs. Way tooooo go! Burnin Thumbs! Steve - The MJB BFT Lures/Baits <A HREF="http://www.demonjigs.com" target="_new">http://www.demonjigs.com</A>

troutman · 06-28-2001, 04:42 AM

Hey Steve, Yes, these hooks look great. I already sliced my finger a little when I was inspecting one of them and dropped it on the ground. Looks great and I look forward to posting a full report when I return in a few days. Jeff Jost

06-28-2001, 02:25 PM

Steve, More and more I have been drifting over to circle hooks. I know that there's all kinds of opinions on their effectiveness but nearly every fish I catch now is hooked in the corner of the jaw and with 28" minimums on stripers, there's an awful lot of catch and release. The circles just seem to do so much less damage to the fish and almost never end up gut-hooking them. What's your view on them? Jerry Vovcsko East Bridgewater, Mass USA Moderator, Massachusetts Forum

06-28-2001, 09:00 PM

Jerry (and other other anglers). Important question I agree and glad you asked. I think circle hooks have a real important part to play in not only reducing general fish morbidity (or damage), but also making catch and release much easier as well. I fully support catch and release angling and that is one of the other reasons that none of our jigs or lures have any trebles on them (at all, not one). So single hooks, in all their shapes and sizes, have an important part to play in catch and release angling IMO. At the same time, there are a couple of points I would make about circles. Depending on the brand/size, some are cut too sharp and result in higher rates of lost fish because the hole made by the point is too jagged. On species like Tuna, sharp circles are not the way to go from my experience. A common hook for them is the EC2005. From my own point of view, and while hooking in the corner of the mouth is important for a number of fish species, for me "some" circle hooks take away "too much feel" from the bite. I am one of those anglers who fishes almost entirely by feel so maintaining that for me is really important. Having said that, we use a number of semi-circle hooks in our lures for the positive reasons I have already mentioned and with great results. One good example is the Demon Fireball Squid Lures. <A HREF="http://www.outdoorcart.com/demon/fireballsquid.htm" target="_new">http://www.outdoorcart.com/demon/fireballsquid.htm</A> They have a mid set and rear trailing semi circle hook stinger on flexing 49 strand wire. These hooks sits in the middle of range in terms of shape, durability and hook up ability. Not too sharp and don't take away too much feel from the angler. They also still have enough hook recurve to assist the angler on Wahoo and other pelagics, plus are tough enough to withstand the fish from hell if they turn up when being yo yo'ed. When it comes to general trolling lures then it's the SS hooks I mentioned at the beginning of the thread. Why? Longer lasting, just as sharp if not sharper that most circle hooks, and they ensure that the lure travels properly at medium or high speeds. I suppose the "heads up" for me is that circle hooks clearly have a place and role to play - depending - on the fish being targeted and the techniques being used e.g. live baiting = no circle hooks for me. Deep vertical jigging? Yes indeed. Burnin Thumbs! Steve B Moderator - Lures/Baits <A HREF="http://www.demonjigs.com" target="_new">http://www.demonjigs.com</A>

07-27-2001, 09:46 PM

if i have one i could tell you

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