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ice rod for sturgon
#1
hi guys , i have a project that needs great care only because of it's history . a few years back i inheritade a bunch of fishing gear from the wifes grandfather ( grandma gave them to me because she wanted them to go to someone who would use them ) , untill last week i had no idea what one of the rods was for untill i saw an outdoor show about icefishing for stergon , BINGO ! THERE WAS THE ROD ! the guide threads are frazzled and i want to replace them , a little fanceyer than the original . do you know where i can obtain info on how to do different patterns , what type of threads to use , and what kind of protective coating to use that wont crack or yellow ? i plan on taking my time with this and want to do a job worthey of the fisherman that it once belonged to . oh yea it's not going into retirement , grandma said gramps didn't belive in that kind of stuff , he would have wanted it used . thats why it was left to me . i'll honer it on this rod but the old split bamboo flyrods are going to be mounted on a plack . thanks lonehunter

if you need a pic i can post one for a better idea .
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#2
Great inheritance Lonehunter, I would love to see a picture of it. I am getting into rodbuilding and I purchased a book called "Advanced Custom Rod Building" by Dale P. Clemens. I got it used on amazon.com for about $20. This would be your best bet for the information that you want. He goes through the whole rod building process, but he spends a lot of time on decorative stuff and has many pictures detailing several ways to decorate your rod. As for the finishes, there are several finishes available, and I don't think that yellowing is as much of a problem as it used to be. I use Flex coat finishes and haven't had a problem with them.

A couple of resources for rod building materials tutorials etc. are

[url "http://www.mudhole.com"]www.mudhole.com[/url]

or angler's workshop

[url "http://www.distantwaters.com/onlstore_aw/aw_sb_rodbuilding.asp?dis=659229"]http://www.distantwaters.com/onlstore_aw/aw_sb_rodbuilding.asp?dis=659229[/url].

Good luck on your project and I look forward to seeing pictures of this rod
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thanks for the info there mr. hopper , this is one project i want to be proud of . and i live within a couple hours driving time to try it out . i'm going to do a step by step photo spread of the process . this is one of thoes heirlooms that is gonna be pased down i hope . i've already picked up some liquid gold to put gramps name and dates on the rod . it's a 5-1/2 foot ice rod with a black plastic butt , about a 14"oak buttstock a 6" oak forestock , aluminum reel seat ,a galvinised clasp that is attached to the shank of the rod blank , the rod blank is black and has plenty of backbone , it has three guides including the tip , i'm increasing them to 9 including the tip . i found the additinal matching guides at a old hardware store a few years back and only paid a buck for them . the original threadwork is a drab green with a gold or silver ribbon at the ends . most of the restoration seems like it should be simple , fancy threadwork is going to be the challenging part .

this progect also gives me an excuse to buy some more extra fly tyeing hardware , is there anyplace where you can buy small decals of the target fish species to adhere to the rod blank ? thanks , lonehunter
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Lonehunter, here is a link to Mudhole's website. I didn't see any sturgeon decals, but there are many others.

[url "http://www.mudhole.com/default.html"]http://www.mudhole.com/default.html[/url] click on decals

Here is a sturgeon decal on angler's workshop, no picture, but they have one.

[url "http://www.distantwaters.com/onlstore_aw/aw_displayitem.asp?cnum=FD160&dis=659643"]http://www.distantwaters.com/onlstore_aw/aw_displayitem.asp?cnum=FD160&dis=659643[/url]

Hope this helps
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[cool]Two thoughts...(1.) don't refinish it if you ever have plans to sell it as an antique. (2.) practice on a Kmart special before you risk messing up a family heirloom.

While refurbishing rods is not that difficult...with proper instruction and some manual dexterity...it is not something just anyone can pick up and whack out perfectly the first try.

Good luck.
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hey tube dude , how you doing ?

it's not going to be sold buddy , i'm gonna put some miles on it ! after i'm old and crusty , someone else will take it over . heck i might even let them use me for bait , ( i know as boney as i am they will only catch a dogfish !)

i thought about practicing on a stick for the windings . then a dry run on the rod before any finishing touches come into play . the junk rod idea seems better though , it will give me a better idea on how things might interact while doing it , thanks guy , your always there with a good idea ! your pal lonehunter
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[cool] I asked my wife if she would still love me when I became old, feeble and wrinkled. She said "Sure I do".

You might look at the other thread on the use of color preservers for your thread. If you haven't wrapped rods before, you are not likely to be prepared for the tendency of many threads to darken and discolor when you coat them with a finish. To prevent thism tiy apply two or more coats of "color preserver" liquid. It also darkens the thread on the first coat, but dries to the thread's original color...if you didn't use too much, and if you let it dry long enough between coats. Only after the thread has absorbed enough color preserver that it does not blotch or change color with a new coat is it ready for the final finish coat.

My point: with a treasure like that family heirloom you want to go slow and make sure you do everything right the first time. Oh sure, you can always strip it down and redo it...but why would you want to.

Do you have any rodwinding tools? If not, shoot me a PM and I can suggest some "poor man's" tools and shortcuts. Unless you plan to make rod wrapping a part of your tackle craft mix. Then, investing in the right tools will make things go easier and you will end up with more professional looking sticks.
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another Big Grin , as a hobby , maybe , going to practice first to see how i like it . i will p.m. you on how to set it up . lonehunter
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