diffrent hook knots,,,,,

[solo_one87]

[url "http://www.fishingcairns.com.au/page6-1.html"]http://www.fishingcairns.com.au/page6-1.html[/url] .... helped me out with not losing my hooks
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[Saberfish]

Hi solo, welcome to BFT.

I have done considerable testing (both trial and error, as well as scientific testing, and found that snelling a hook is without a doubt the best connection, but if that is not possible, I found that the uni-know is best.

I'll try to post a attachment with instructions for tying it.

good luck
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[EZOP]

Here's a good link to all kinds of animated knots.
[url "http://www.animatedknots.com/"]http://www.animatedknots.com/[/url]
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[bdn06]

I always thought animated knots were kind of mickey mouse []
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[tubeN2]

Welcome aboard solo_one87 and thanks for the helpful reference[cool]
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[davetclown]

I only use three knots in fishing.

the trilean knot.
the polimer knot
the snell knot

with those three knots, you cant hardly go wrong...

you do have to select the type of hook and application of the hook being used as to which knot is best for the for the job...
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[tubeN2]

I use the Trilene knot too. It is very strong and works for many applications. I will use the Snell Knot when tying to Octopus hooks beacause to the difference of the angle of the eyelet on the hook.

I use the Palimar for drop shotting while Bass fishing. The Dropper loop for the deeper ocean fishing or while targeting certain big game around the Islands.[cool]
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[Tarpon4me]

Good tip Dave, I also use those three knots. I prefer to use the trilene knot on line above 10 pound test.

The polimer knot seems effective for all types of line, braid or mono, and on any pound test. [cool]
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[flygoddess]

[#0060bf][size 3]Granted, I am only a Fly Flinger, but I always use a "Surgeon's Loop".[/size][/#0060bf]
[#0060bf][size 3]I use it cause I can use heavier tippet on smaller flies but still get movement out of the fly.[/size][/#0060bf]
[#0060bf][size 3]Simple knot also when it is cold[laugh][/size][/#0060bf]
[#0060bf][size 3]Plus I only use Flourocarbon.[/size][/#0060bf]
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[Tarpon4me]

You're right on, I use that knot quite often when I have to scrape up a drop rig in a hurry. I'll thread my hook on before I double the line to begin the loop. It allows the hook to have alot of freedom.

Another knot that accomplishes the same thing, but a tad more complicated is the "perfection loop." I can tie it, but like you, i'd rather use the surgeon's loop. If you've got time though, it is a much smaller and tidy looking knot.

Thanks for sharing flygoddess. Also, I was watching close as you threw in a flyfishing tip. LOL, i'm taking notes.
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[tubeN2]

The perfection loop is actually really fast and easy. All you are doing is tying a dropper loop but inserting the fly or hook up into the equation before all the looping goes on.

I guess that could be a challenge though in the cold weather and since the Flygoddess uses such small flies. I do give her some credit and refrain from dissing. [cool]
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[Dryrod]

[cool][font "Poor Richard"][green][size 3]Hi there solo_one87 - here is a link to one of our own boards that include numerous fishing knots. Hope that this provides you with some help.[/size][/green][/font]

[url "http://www.bigfishtackle.com/cgi-bin/gforum/gforum.cgi?post=145611;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread"]http://www.bigfishtackle.com/cgi-bin/gforum/gforum.cgi?post=145611;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread[/url]
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[Tarpon4me]

Yea, it's not bad to tie, but the surgeons loop just seems a little easier, especially with a light test braid or something like that.

Now, when I tie fluorocarbon on a clark spoon for spanish or something like that, i'll use a perfection loop because of how small it is. LOL, I guess i'm just "knot challenged." I hate tieing a perfection loop. [] I also feel like i've got more "control" of the loop size with a surgeons loop as well. Alot of times i'll make a really big loop, like 6 inches long. Then, when I want to stick a hook on, all I do is thread the end of the loop through the eye and bring it back over the hook. Bingo, hook on. Then just reverse the process when i'm done. I only do that when i'm targeting smaller fish, I always tie terminal tackle right on the leader with larger fish.
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[flygoddess]

[black][size 3]While I use a Perfection Loop all the time in leaders or Flouro line for loop to loop connection, I have never thought of using it on a fly. Not sure I would even know how to do that with the loop in the back then loop in the front, and cross between and pull second loop over tag and through first loop. Where do you put the hook? The second loop in the middle is all I can visualize. Trust me the surgeon's is much easier. Thread fly on tippet, with enough tag to make a loop, then feed hook through loop twice. I then stick the eye of the hook in the loop and slowly tighten. When I get close to the eye, I pull the eye out and pull on tippet and tag. I can get very small loop like that and YES I think a loop can be too big and change the flow of the fly in the water. I like very small loops so the knot doesn't create its own wake.[/size][/black]
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[Tarpon4me]

I agree with you totally, That brings me back to "having more control" with the loop that's being made. It's easier for me to do that with the surgeons loop.

Also, with lures/flies in mind, if the loop is too big, it gives an un-natural appearance to the lure/flie as well; not to mention the drag i'm sure it creates with a fly. Especially with fish that have excellent vision, and use thier sense of sight as a primary hunting trigger, the big loop would surely spook them more times than not.
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[tubeN2]

The fly goes on the line before you do any tying. That allows the fly to swim freely along the loop.[pirate]
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[flygoddess]

[black][size 3]Could be the blonde in me, but I would have to see it to GET it[/size][/black][crazy]
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[tubeN2]

The first link is the freshwater/flyfishing style of perfection loop.
[url "http://www.killroys.com/knots/perfecti.htm"]http://www.killroys.com/knots/perfecti.htm[/url]

Here is a picture of the Saltwater version. I use this one but with a fly and not a lure as illustrated.

Try it especially for streamers or Clousers, Zonkers and such.
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[flygoddess]

[black][size 3]Okay, I have always called that the Rapala knot. Here is a Perfection Loop I use, and you will see the confusion. It is a loop for the end of a line, not for attaching a flie. This is all so confusing with the same names.[/size][/black]
[inline perfectionloop.gif]


[black][size 3]Here is the PERFECT loop better known as the Rapala with a couple more loops than the one you posted:
[/size][/black][inline rapala_knot.jpeg]
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[tubeN2]

I see what you mean. The first link that I posted has that version of the perfection loop. Only thing is, that you can insert a fly into the area "A" on the diagram before tying the whole thing through.

That is where all the confusion came in on my part earlier. I was picturing the Saltwater version tied up to one of your #30 flies.

That was the picture that was hard for me to grasp.[crazy]
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